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I put a 80-81 Cdi on a 82 xlh, runs but backfires should I advance or retard

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Probably retard it a bit but I don't think it is the timing
You say it runs and backfires but if the timing was too far advanced it would backfire on starting and be difficult to start
I suspect the fault to be electronic ---like a loose wire on the coil , faulty coil, faulty ignition control module, loose wire at ignition switch, loose ground wire , loose ground wire on battery
look for something that is making and breaking contact at random as that action induces a spark at the wrong time

Posted on Feb 27, 2016

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either your timing is not set right (retarded not advanced) or something in your fuel system ? possible water or dirt? you said it is backfiring when you let off the throttle, makes me point to the timing being to retarded.

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I have a 80-81 Cdi on a 82 xlh, do I need to advance or retard to make it work? It runs but backfires


Hi, Barry if it is just the timing you need to advance it and check it with a timing light otherwise the usual suspects are:
1. A severely drained battery.
2. Check battery terminals for damage or corrosion, check the battery cables at "BOTH" ends for loose, corroded, or broken connectors, "INSIDE" and outside the cable harness, perform connector wiggle test and check cables with an ohmmeter if necessary.
3. Faulty main circuit breaker and or connections.
4. Faulty ignition coil and or connections.
5. Faulty spark plug, oil or gas fouled, wrong heat range or service type, wrong gap, loose in the cylinder head, broken electrode or insulator.
6. Faulty spark plug cables, leaking or broken, internal damage.
7. Faulty ignition module, switch, CKP, MAP, CMP, sensor and or any connector in the ignition circuit could have corroded, loose, or broken pins/sockets
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"Backfiring" is a pretty broad term depending on where you live. Some people refer to backfiring as popping from the exhaust while others refer to it as the engine spitting through the carburetor.

I'll assume that you're talking about popping out the exhaust pipe. If it does this after you rev the engine and it backfires on the way back down to idle, this is typical of an exhaust system sucking air. The mixture is extremely rich under these circumstances and will not ignite. But, if your exhaust system is sucking air, it combines with the fuel air mixture already there and bring it to an explosive mixture thus the backfire.

You can check you valves but I've always found that if the valves on an Ironhead are too tight, it's extremely difficult to get it started due to the low compression on that cylinder.

Check you ignition timing and points setting. Also, what kind of condition is your mechanical advance in the distributor in? I'm assuming this is an XLH model and not the magneto equipped XLCH.

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