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Kick start has no compression but runs fine once i get it going

Kx250f '04' model, not much bike knowledge so, the bike has had new pistons, rings, valves, cam, cam shaft, gasket im not sure wat the word rebuild means but its had some other stuff done aswell, i learnt to ride on the this bike and am addicted, i've done about 100 hours of riding and about 30-40 since the rebuild. the kick start has no compression at the moment and i usually have to clutch it to start, after warming up for 2hrs or so i can then kick it over but still with not much compression. is it time for valves.

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Does it feel like yhe kick is even engaging and turning the crankshaft? Are you full stroking/kicking it over or short stroking it? when cold, are you using the choke. I suggest taking a compression test when it feels as if it hs no compression It could be undersized piston, rings, or a simple. good luck

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