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Starter clicks 2009 Triumph America

On a 2009 Triumph America won't start with good battery. I disconnected a single wire from Starter when start button pressed get battery voltage to wire. When connected just click. Do I replace the whole starter? I have the 4 bolts out but cannot determine how to remove from inside frame. @

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    James Hary Dec 02, 2019

    I figured out problem and solution on my 2009 America. The problem is defect in Triumph design with CPU. It cannot be adjusted or re-mapped. Long story short; too much battery drain at start with headlight on, so computer won't allow starting process and you get the "click". To fix problem, put a toggle switch on headlight so you can turn headlight off when starting.

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Hi, Mark before testing any electrical component in the Starter Circuit it is "IMPERATIVE" that you have a fully charged battery of 12.5 volts or more and be able to pass a proper "LOAD" test if necessary, you may have a preliminary reading of 12.5 volts or more but little or zero amperage, the battery is faulty and must be replaced. AGM type batteries fall into this scenario more so than lead-acid batteries. Depending on battery voltage starter relays and starter solenoids can make the same noise when you hit the starter button. You can easily determine which one is at fault by two simple tests:
STARTER RELAY- place your thumb and index finger on the starter relay and press the starter button, if you feel the click then the relay is faulty and needs to be replaced.
STARTER SOLENOID- bridge the positive and negative poles of the solenoid with a small screwdriver if you get a loud clunk then the solenoid needs to be rebuilt or replaced as necessary. If the engine turns over then replace the starter relay.
A motorcycle starter relay is an electronic mechanical switch that has a small coil winding around a piece of metal that requires low amperage and thin wires to be activated. When you turn on your ignition switch power 12 volts is sent to the relay coil which in turn becomes a magnetic contact point that pulls a spring-loaded contact point to itself completing an electrical circuit that allows more amperage necessary to be accessed by the starter solenoid which in turn acts in the same way as the relay but on a larger scale with its stronger heavier contacts making available the necessary amperage to turn the starter motor. If your battery has low voltage it, in turn, makes the magnetic contact point weak in trying to pull its counterpart to make a connection. These relays are usually encased in a plastic housing that is sealed, depending on the quality of the product. When activated they will produce a small amount of heat to their metal components which in turn can create the perfect environment for condensation to form depending on weather conditions and how careless you may be with a water hose or sprayer while washing your bike. After a period of time, several months to several years depending on the circumstances this condensation is the starter button for electrolysis and the slow build-up of corrosion which ends by preventing the magnetic contacts in making a solid connection and alerts you to this situation with the customary greeting "CLICK or BUZZ" if you get a single loud "CLUNK" then the starter solenoid is at fault and needs to be rebuilt or replaced as necessary. The relay is inexpensive and needs to be replaced however in a pinch they can be forcibly opened cleaned and resealed with silicone. In a nutshell, motorcycle starter relays take in low amperage and send out higher amperage when activated and for curious minds, the voltage remains constant at whatever your battery reads at the time.
For more information about your issue and valuable "FREE" downloads that you will need for viewing or printing please click on the blue links below. Good luck and have a wonderful day.
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ok, there is two possibly problems u could be experiencing. ONE: would be a worn out solenoid(needs to be replaced) or TWO: the starter bruckes are worn out so far that it is actually grounding out or they are not conecting to the armature in the starter. this is a relatively easy fix, but to try to find the parts s another story. i would recomend taking it to ur local dealer or a starter repair shop. they will be able to get the parts and fix it for u. my dad works at a starter/alternator repair shop here in chatham ontario.

Posted on Mar 20, 2009

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Hi and welcome to FixYa,

Almost always, if you would follow the big red cable from the battery's + terminal, it would go to one terminal of the starter relay. The other terminal of this relay would then go to the starter motor. It would look something like the image below.
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Posted on May 23, 2009

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Does the bang seem to come from the bottom or middle???

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SOURCE: My 2002 triumph Thunderbird stalled and wont start

Check fuel filter and air filter, then spark plugs, not necessarily in that order.

Posted on Oct 27, 2009

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SOURCE: My 2006 Triumph America has a problem starting.

I have a friend that has a 2006 Triumph America and the same thing happened to him. Started running on one cylinder and then just refused to start. I did a check on everything and found that the CDI went bad. This is mounted under the fuel tank along the back bone and is about 3 inch square box.
They mounted them with a type of plastic rivet and would vibrated on the mount and cause something inside to break. When you replace it mount it solid and use a piece of rubber between the mounting plate and the CDI.

Posted on Oct 28, 2009

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