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What is the size of magnetic wire used in rewinding primary coil?

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I believe it's around .021 inches if u get something close and figure out how much resistance (ohms) the coil ishould have then u wind until u get to the proper resistance.

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Schematic malibu 8100-9120-01

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I don't think they post schematic for the transformer
But generally, the primary coil receives 120Volt AC input from household electrical outlet
And the secondary coil produces 12Volt AC output for the low voltage lights.
The 'coil' is a coil of insulated wire wrapped around a metal core. Two coils set side by side create a transformer... when primary is energized, the secondary responds to the magnetic field caused by primary core... resulting in a current that flows on the secondary coil.
Output voltage on secondary coil is determined by the number of wraps and diameter of wire.

Some transformers offer a choice of secondary output... Kichler for example... you can select 12-13-14-15 Volt AC output
This is achieved by the way the secondary coil is wrapped.... for less voltage a wire is tapped at one point on the coil... for more voltage, a wire is tapped at another point on coil. This gives the user several wire choices to connect the lights.

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I have a lt1000 with a 17.5 horse briggs was running great died one afternoon and has no fire to the plug. keeps fouling the plug. what could be the problem.. How do u test the magnito and where does it...

you can use a neon bulb voltage tester to check for spark
a magneto gets its spark from the collapse of the magnetic field that occurs when the points close
the magneto is comprised of two coils.
a primary and a secondary.
when the points are open the primary and secondary are one continuous circuit and generates a considerable magnetic field when the magnet passes the magneto.
when the points close the primary coil is shorted to ground.
this causes a very rapid collapse of the magnetic field in the magneto.
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If its a transformer based Amplifier you can rewind the primary winding for 230Volt. But it has to be done by a transformer specialist.
All one has to do is unwind the primary on a winding machine and make a note of the number of turnings in the coil. Then wind back twice the number of turns using half the thickness of the wire that was used for 110v.
Eg: if the there were 1000 turns of 20 swg wire in the 110 circuit when you rewind you have to use 40swg wire and wind 2000 turns on the bobin.
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Could be a cover over the spark plugs or plugs have coil on plug system: Ignition System WARNING
To avoid personal injury and/or vehicle damage, refer to the service precautions at the beginning of this section.
General Information NOTE: For information on understanding electricity and troubleshooting electrical circuits, please refer to chassis electrical.
Coil on Plug (COP) System
The coil over plug system was developed so that spark and spark timing could be better controlled on an individual cylinder basis. Each cylinder has an ignition coil mounted directly above the spark plug on the cylinder head cover. A short suppresser/connector replaces the spark plug wire and links the coil to the plug. There are different methods used for primary triggering. Some manufacturers use a combination coil/module, which means each coil has its own control circuit that is activated by the PCM. Others use remote mounted modules to trigger the coils.
Each individual coil is allowed to saturate while all other cylinders fire. For a V-8 engine, this allows a period of seven firing events for coil saturation, compared to three events for the same V-8 engine with a waste spark system. The coil over plug system also benefits from a minimum amount of energy lost, due to the resistance of spark plug wires.
Distributor System
If a distributor is not keyed for installation with only one orientation, it could have been removed and installed improperly and then rewired. The new wiring arrangement would maintain the correct firing order, but could change the relative placement of the plug towers in relation to the engine. For this reason it is imperative that you label all wires before disconnecting any of them. Also, before removal, compare the current wiring with the accompanying illustrations. If the current wiring does not match, make notes of the current plug wire locations and orientation of the distributor cap.
Magnetic Sensor / Pick-Up Coil
The magnetic sensor in electronic ignition system is made up of a small coil of wire wrapped around an iron core, a permanent magnet and a toothed wheel called a reluctor. These sensors can be found mounted in a distributor, or at the front, middle, or rear of the crankshaft or camshaft, and are two-wire sensors.
The permanent magnet produces a magnetic field that passes thru the center of the pick-up coil. As the reluctor turns, the small teeth enter the magnetic field. Because the metal is a better conductor for the field than the air between the magnet and reluctor, the field strength begins to increase and reaches its maximum when the reluctor teeth are closest to the sensor. An increase in magnetic field induces a positive voltage to the module. As the teeth leave the magnetic field, the decrease in pole strength induces a negative voltage into the module. This alternating positive and negative voltage causes a small AC current. This alternating current after passing through an analog/digital converter is used by the module or engine controller to trigger the primary circuit.
Hall-Effect Device
Another device that can be used to create a triggering signal is a hall-effect device. A hall-effect device can be thought of as a solid-state On/Off switch. The hall-effect switch is a three-wire device that must receive a power and ground. The hall-effect switch is used in conjunction with an interrupter ring with a series of slots or openings cut into it. Depending on the application, these slots are spaced around the ring in a specific configuration. As the ring rotates, the slots pass between the hall-effect switch, and alternately turns the voltage off and on. When a slot aligns with the hall-effect switch, the controller sees voltage on the signal line. When the area between slots passes the hall-effect switch, the signal is pulled low. This results in a voltage of 0V–0.1V at the controller.
The rotation of the interrupter ring causes the signal to toggle, which causes a continual series of digital pulses on the signal line. This digital pulse is the timing signal that is used by the ignition module or engine computer to open and close the primary circuit. The controller processes these pulses as the RPM signal.
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Another device used to create a triggering signal is the photo optical sensor. Inside the distributor, there are pick-ups called the Reference pick-up and the Sync pick-up. Each pick-up has a Light Emitting Diode (LED) and a phototransistor. A slotted disc rotates between the pick-ups. The pair of LED’s and phototransistors generates crankshaft position and RPM signals (high and low-resolution signals). The LED’s are powered by a 9- or 12-volt source (depending on manufacturer). Each phototransistor is used to turn a 5-volt signal from the engine controller on and off.
If we look at the optical distributor used in the Chrysler 3.0L engine as an example, there are two areas of slots cut into the disc. The outer diameter of the disc, which generates the high-resolution signal, contains 350 slots. Each of these slots represents 1 degree of crankshaft rotation. An area of approximately 3/8" with no slots represents the remaining 10 degrees. The inner portion of the disc is the low-resolution signal and contains six 60-degree slots. Each of these slots represents the piston’s top dead center position for each cylinder. The controller uses the high-resolution signal to regulate spark timing up to 1200 RPM. This ensures timing accuracy, since crankshaft speed fluctuations are most likely to occur because of the firing pulses during cranking and idle. The low-resolution signal is used for injector firing, as well as ignition timing above 1200 RPM.
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A few hundred volts will be generated in the primary winding because of the collapsing magnetic field across the heavy primary wire. However, as the magnetic lines of force cut across the thousands of turns of fine wire in the secondary, a far greater voltage is produced. The production of primary voltage is called self-induction, since the primary winding essentially magnifies its own initial voltage when the magnetic field collapses.
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Faulty ignition system components along with loose connections, bad grounds, high resistance or opens in the circuit, may cause the following symptoms:
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