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Flapper valve I installed a new 1.6 GPF toilet yesterday. ( TK Patriot Space Saver 6001058 Part number 141215096.) When flushing, the flapper valve closes too quickly not letting enough water out of the tank to do an adequate flush. I have not changed the lenght of the flapper valve lift chain from where the factory had it set. It appears to have a little slack when flapper valve is closed. What do I do to keep this valve open longer?

  • Anonymous Mar 03, 2009

    After the toilet is flushed, the flapper will not go down. I have tried several flappers but they all do the same. How do I fix it?

  • Anonymous Mar 16, 2014

    toilet makin groan noise when flush

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You will need to adjust the chain. They are just clipped at any point when coming from the factory not at the opyimal length. It will take a little effort to find the desired length as sometimes the trick to getting the valve to remain open longer is opposite of what one would expect. I mean there is a point to where there will be more slack in the line than you might expect to get the valve to stay open for the optimal duration.
Hope this helps you.

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How to fix a flush valve

  • Most toilet tank troubles can be traced to a faulty flush valve. You have three choices in correcting this common problem: (1) repair the old flush valve; (2) replace the flush ball with a more modern flapper or install a glued-in replacement flapper; (3) or install a new flush valve.

  • These repairs require a varying amount of work. The more simple adjustments were discussed previously.

  • Examine the old flush ball or flapper. If it is aged or encrusted with deposits, replace it with a new one. Scale deposits on the seat can be removed with steel wool or with No. 500 wet-or-dry abrasive paper. But if the valve still leaks, it must be replaced.

  • You can install a new guide arm, if necessary. To remove the lift wire from a flush ball, turn it counterclockwise with pliers. If you are replacing all parts, simply cut off the old lift wire.

  • Flapper. To replace a flapper, disconnect the lift hardware from the trip arm and slide the flapper up and off the overflow pipe. Install the new unit, reversing directions, and connect the lift hardware back to the trip arm. Any excess lift chain can be cut off or left dangling, if it doesn't interfere with toilet operation.

  • A loose trip handle can be fixed by tightening. The nut has left-hand threads, and must be turned counterclockwise to tighten (looking from inside the tank). Or, you can install a replacement trip handle.

  • Glue-in repair kit. Many replacement flush valves simply glue in place on top of the old valve seat. While several brands are available, not every type of flush can be replaced by these devices.

  • On single-piece toilet tanks–with a flush valve held in place with flanges that fit inside the opening–the flapper-ball may bind and prevent a leak-proof seal. On more common two-piece toilets, this problem does not occur.

  • Using a glue-in repair kit is quick and easy, but you must follow the manufacturer's instructions. To be sure you purchase the right kind of repair kit, take a rough drawing of the bottom of your toilet tank and flush valve to your hardware or home center store.
on Jan 16, 2010 • Plumbing
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Flapper valve closes too quickly

Fill the breather hole (1/8" hole) inside the flapper.This is designed to let air out so the flapper will sink. Now it floats longer letting in more water. 25%percent more in my case.
Apr 22, 2012 • Home
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I have a new American Standard Cadet 3 that was just installed. After flushing, the water fills into the bowl. However, after several minutes, the water in the bowl slowly drains away and is nearly gone....

Sorry for problem with new toilet.
You say water is leaking out of the bowl?

Toilets have 2 parts:
1) Tank: where water is stored for the flush and is sealed with a flapper.
2) Bowl: where water flushes down.

a) If tank is leaking water, then flapper is suspect. Replace flapper and see if that works.
Lift up flapper and run finger around rim to see if there is a rough spot that would indicate flush valve is defective, and needs replacement.
See typical flush valve

b) If bowl is leaking, that is very unusual and would indicate a crack in the porcelain.

If installer sold you the toilet, it is his responsibility to make good on product.
All products are guarantee against workmanship flaws.
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Replace flapper valve in ultramax

Your Toto has the "G-Max" flush valve system. The Korky/Lavelle folks have a carded replacement flapper #2021BP for it. It is red in color and the only generic flapper that will work on your toilet. While it may look the same, do not confuse it with the blue flapper #2022BP. Known as the PowerMax flapper, the blue color is to distinguish between the two and the flappers are totally toilet specific. Let your fingers do the walking and locate a hardware store near you that carries the Korky/Lavelle brand or it can be ordered online from several places using the part number for your search word.
If the fill valve ever stops filling correctly, the Lavelle "Quiet Fill", #528BP, is what Toto uses in most of their toilets.
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The water in the bowl keep runing after the tank is full.

fill valve not shutting off water running over overflow tube set or replace fill valve flapper valve leaking replace flapper valve cracked and leaking flush valve assembly replace
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Toto toilet keeps running. water is going into the pipe continuously.I am stupid about fixing this.....or anything.....any SIMPLE help? thanks

Turn of the feed line for the water. Flush the toilet. Then reach in tank and pick up the flapper valve. Clean around the seat of the flapper valve real well. Check for damage on the flapper valve and clean it as well. Put the flapper valve back in its seat and turn the water on to fill the tank. Then bend the rod for the float down a touch. This will put more pressure on the water valve at the top of the pipe in the tank. If this doesn't work, you may need to change your float valve. They wear out. The ones you buy in the DIY stores generally have diagrams and good instructions for installation.
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Always have to hold handle to get it to flush

lift the lid,and look, flush, the rubber valve that opens when lever is is pulled should float, so either its very loose or broken and needs to be replaced.plz rate-bozcro
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Flapper will not go down

Troy, the flapper otherwise known as the flush valve is easily replaced. They are also very inexpensive. Sometimes they can become distorted due to the clorine in the water and won't operate in the same way they did when it was new. I bet this will fix your issue and save you money as well.
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