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Posted on Aug 16, 2008

Top wont let back or close

I engaged the top to let back and the back part that raises up to allow the top to go in did not come up and now the top wont close or go back , need help please

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Inside your trunk on the left hand side there are two electric motors one drives the rooof lid and the other drives the roof, they can be engaged and disengaged independantly by small steel levers(THESE ARE LOCATED UNDER THE MATERIAL). once disengaged check if they work by standing and checking them while someone presses the roof button for you. 

If they work and everything is fine you need to engage and disengage until they are in sync, When the roof lid is open you will also notice a small button under the roof lid catches this button allows the back part of the roof to drop and to tell the car that the roof lid is closed and it is now safe to let opne the trunk.

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No power to convertible switch 2000 mustang gt fuse are ok

Principles of Operation
The convertible top will only operate with the parking brake engaged and the ignition switch in the RUN position. When the parking brake is engaged, the raise and lower relay coils are grounded through the parking brake switch. The convertible top switch supplies power to the raise or lower relay coil when raise or lower is selected. This power energizes the coil causing the relay contacts to close which supplies battery power to the convertible top motor/pump assembly. The normal state of the relay is connected to ground. When the raise or lower relay is operating, the other relay remains in its normal state supplying the motor/pump ground.

Inspection and Verification
  1. Verify the customer concern by operating the system.
  1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical or electrical damage.

    Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
    • Door and quarter window glass adjustment.
    • Convertible top brackets and frame.
    • Hydraulic motor and pump.
    • Hydraulic lift cylinders.
    • Central junction box (CJB) Fuse 20 (15A).
    • Battery junction box (BJB) circuit breaker CONV TOP (25A).
    • Wiring harness.
    • Loose or corroded connections.
    • Raise or lower relays.
    • Parking brake switch.
    • Convertible top switch.
  1. If an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern is found, correct the cause (if possible) before proceeding to the next step.
  1. If the concern is not visually evident, verify the symptom and refer to the Symptom Chart.
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07 corvette top will retract but deck lid makes no effort to close, then top will not go back up. Need to release pressure in block lift top up about 1/4 of way then top will go back up

Manually Moving the Folding Top from the Down Position
Important: Allow the system a minimum of four minutes to bleed down pressure after the last cycle.
Manually release the folding top cover latch using the emergency release cable.
Raise the folding top stowage cover.
Manually raise the folding top, holding the 5 bow up.
Manually lower and latch the folding top stowage cover.
Manually unfold the top and latch per normal procedure.

Manually Moving the Folding Top from the Up Position
Important: Allow the system a minimum of four minutes to bleed down pressure after the last cycle.
Manually release header latch per normal operation.
Manually lift front of roof off of the header and raise the #5 bow at the same time.
Manually release the Folding Top Cover latch using the emergency release cable.
Fold the roof down into the well.
Manually close and latch the folding top stowage cover.

Power Folding Top System Components
The power folding top system consists of the following components:
• Folding top control (FTC) module
• Body control module (BCM)
• Folding top control switch
• Serial data communication
• Folding top cover latch actuator
• Folding top cover pull down actuator
• Folding top pump motor with valve manifold
• Position switches and limit switches:
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- Luggage barrier switch
- Folding top cover open switch
- Top open switch
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- 5 bow raised switch
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• Tonneau release relay
• TONNEAU PULL DOWN ACTUATOR Fuse 20 A
• TONNEAU RELEASE Fuse 10 A
• BATT 2 Fuse 40 A
• REAR FOG/ALDL TOP SW Fuse 10 A
• Folding top mechanical components:
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- Folding top cover
- Folding top valve 1
- Folding top valve 2
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The power folding top system includes a folding top cover that is powered open and close by a hydraulic system that is controlled by the FTC module. A power unlatch motor is used to unlatch the folding top cover before the folding top control (FTC) module powers the top cover open. The folding top cover unlatching is requested by the FTC module via class 2 message, but is executed by the body control module (BCM). When requested, the BCM applies battery voltage through the folding top cover release relay control circuit to the tonneau release relay. The relay is energized and battery voltage is applied through the folding top cover release control circuit to the latch actuator. The actuator is energized and the latch releases the folding top cover.

The electronics on this are very complex ,

System Operation
Before any movement of the power folding top is allowed, the folding top control (FTC) module must be aware of the following conditions:
• Unlatch the header. The FTC module reads the pin receiver switch is Inactive.
• The windows must be normalized. Refer to Power Window Reinitialization.
• The ignition must be placed in Accessory or RUN.
• The transmission must be placed in PARK, or with manual transmission, the park brake must be applied.
• Trunk status must not be ajar.
• The luggage barrier must be in place.
• The pump motor temperature must be within the operating range.

After the last cycle of power folding top operation, allow the hydraulic system a minimum of 4 minutes to bleed down before attempting manual operation of the top.
Your best bet take and have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes .
DTC B3666 Rear Tonneau Position Error
DTC B3667 Tonneau Release Circuit
DTC B1011
DTC B1291
DTC B1420
DTC B3602
DTC B3666
DTC B3667
DTC B3670
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I believe you do this in this order. Roll windows down, release the latch at the top of the windshield, raise the front of the top, release rear cover by pulling the latch near the rear seat, Pull up the back of the top and then pull up on the rear cover. The back of the top should now fit into the opening under the rear cover. Continue to fold the top into this space. Push down on the rear cover to lock (won't be able to open trunk if not engaged.) To raise it, release rear latch cover, open rear cover and pull top out of opening. Raise rear of top so you are able to now close the rear cover, set rear of top down on cover and then pull fron of top down and engage the fraont latch. Hoe that helps.
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It is a hydraulic pump that applies pressure to the 2 hydraulic pistons to raise & lower the top. So, check for something obstructing movement first.

The convertible top:
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  • requires parking brake engaged to complete circuit for operation.
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VISUAL INSPECTION CHART Mechanical Electrical
  • Damaged fluid reservoir.
  • Damaged folding top hydraulic cylinders .
  • Damaged folding top motor upper and lower hose .
  • Damaged convertible top regulator.
  • Parking brake not engaged.
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  • Damaged raise/lower relay .
  • Damaged folding top hydraulic lift motor and plate kit .


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  • Circuitry open/shorted.
  • Damaged folding top switch.
  • Damaged raise/lower relay .
  • Damaged folding top hydraulic lift motor and plate kit .
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The rear windows are controlled by a timer in the top's ECU. If
the rear windows stop fully closing before your top is closed, the
problem MAY be with top's hydraulic system.

Check your top's hydraulic reserve tank for low fluid level. Lack
of fluid will greatly delay the top's closing sequence, leaving
those rear windows partially open.
Your top's hydraulic pump system is located beneath the right side
of the cubby/storage box behind the front seats. Raise the cover
and you'll see a removable trim panel on the right side. The pump
is behind that access panel.

You can use power steering fluid to top off the tank, but don't
fill it above level indicator line. You may have to add more fluid
after you cycle the top up and down to get the air bubbles out of
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Perhaps, just switching the relays might prove which one is failing..

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