1997 Pontiac Firebird, will not crank. Changed fuel pump and the relay, now the security light is coming on and injectors will not engage...HELP
On my '97 Camaro, the first thing I hear when turning the ignition key is the fuel pump run and the fuel rail pressure up. .
First thought is, manual cars must have clutch depressed and auto cars in Park or Neutral to enable cranking. If these inhibit switches are faulty then that could be your problem. Had an old 5-speed manula Pontiac Fiero with a faulty inhibit switch. I just bypassed the switch with a piece of jumper wire. Just had to remember to ensure car was in neutral when starting!!
Do you have a shop manual with wiring diagrams? The Haynes manual schematic covering both Camaro and Firebird diagram shows a theft deterrent relay between the starter key switch and the main starter solenoid mounted on the starter motor. This relay actuating coil has a volts feed on one side of the coil from the inhibit switches fitted to ensure the car is in Park or Neutral for Automatics or the clutch must be depressed for manual cars. The other side ot this relay coil is grounded via the Theft Deterrent Module.
There is also a further fuse. Number 16, a 3 amp fuse labelled "Crank fuse" that is labelled as going to the Diagnostic Energy Reserve Module. Not sure what that is but with the fuse labelled "crank fuse" it sounds important!! it may be linked to the theft deterrent module but my manual is not clear on that.
If all the fuses are OK then I think the problem lies in the anti theft system.
To bypass the anti-theft and enable cranking you could simply break the yellow/black wire from the theft deterrent relay and ground the relay coil. (cut the wire and connect to ground / chassis, the bit going to the relay not going toward the anti-theft module) Turning the starter key should then apply volts that are coming from the transmission inhibit or clutch inhibt switches to the coil of the theft inhibit relay. This relay then pulls in and applies vots to the main starter solenoid and so enable cranking. The starter solenoid should be heard as a solid thunk as it pulls in. Small relays as a tick.
If this works then wire in a hidden switch in this ground wire to act as a unique anti theft device.
However if the vehicle control electronics are also fried then you will still have problems.
Hope all this is of some help and best of luck.
Cheers, Brian. (Over in Manchester, England, Europe)
Oct 31, 2013 |
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