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I got a Error Code P1441 Definition EVAP System Flow During Non-Purge Conditions Possible Causes: EVAP purge valve, purge pipe, or the charcoal canister has a temporary blockage (this fault could cause an intermittent fault) FTP sensor is out-of-calibration, damaged or it is skewed EVAP purge solenoid valve is damaged or has failed PCM has failed TSB 00-06-04-022 contains a repair procedure for this code Condition For Setting The Code: DTC P0107, P0108, P0112, P0113, P0117, P0118, P0122, P0123, P0125, P0440, P0442, P0446, P0452 and P0453 not set, P0440, P0442 and P0446 all passed, and the PCM detected a continuous open purge flow condition (fuel tank pressure at less than -11" H2O).

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P1442 usually gas cap. P1449 usually vent solenoid. P1441 usually always a faulty FTP sensor. Very problematic to Malibu, Grand Am Cavaliers and Aleros. That would be my first area to check. They are also known for poor wiring connections at the Left rear passthru connector to the fuel tank and vent solenoid, but not necessarily for that code.

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Definition of po1441 trouble code

P1441 Evaporative emission control system very small leak, positive pressure.
The problem may be that the purge control valve which is part of the charcoal canister has a slight leak.
If the control valve doesn't completely close, there will be flow during non-purge.
Vacuum drawn through the small hose to the charcoal canister is what opens the purge control valve.
Make sure that there is no vacuum to the smallest hose connected to the canister at idle.
Make sure the little hose is not kinked or pinched in some way that would hold vacuum to the purge control valve.
The canister is purged above 35 MPH, never at idle.

P0446 EVAP canister vent valve

The P1441 and P0446 are related.
When you fix the P1441 the P0446 may go away also or it may need a new vent valve.
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Codes0441 0442 0455 0456

codes po441 po442 po455 po456. code po441 - EVAP system no flow during purge conditions.code po442 -EVAP system small leak detected conditions. code po455 - EVAP system large leak detected conditions.code po456 - EVAP system very small leak detected. possible causes loose damaged missing fuel cap.fuel tank sensor disconnected or failed. ORING on top fuel sending unit leaking.purge valve vapor line clogged disconnected or purge solenoid failed.vent solenoid not closing or has failed.
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Whats code p1441

Hi there:DTC P1441 - EVAP System Flow During Non-Purge




CIRCUIT DESCRIPTION
The evaporative system includes the following components:


The fuel tank.
The EVAP canister vent valve.
The fuel tank pressure sensor.
The fuel pipes and hoses.
The fuel cap.
The EVAP vapor lines.
The EVAP purge lines.
The evaporative emission canister.
The EVAP purge valve.


The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) supplies a ground to energize the valve (purge ON). The EVAP purge valve control is Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) or turned ON and OFF several times a second. The duty cycle (pulse width) is determined by engine operating conditions including load, throttle position, coolant temperature and ambient temperature. The duty cycle is calculated by the PCM and the output is commanded when the appropriate conditions have been met. The system checks for conditions that cause the EVAP system to purge continuously by commanding the EVAP canister vent valve ON and the EVAP purge valve OFF (EVAP canister vent valve CLOSED, EVAP purge PWM 0%). If vacuum level in the fuel tank increases during the test, a continuous purge flow condition is indicated. This can be caused by any of the following conditions:


EVAP purge valve leaking.
EVAP purge and engine vacuum lines switched at the EVAP purge valve.
EVAP purge valve control circuit grounded. If any of these conditions are present, DTC P1441 will set.


CONDITIONS FOR SETTING THE DTC


No Throttle Position (TP) sensor, ODM, IAT sensor, or MAP sensor DTCs set.
The DTC P0442 diagnostic test has passed.
A continuous open purge flow condition is detected during the diagnostic test (fuel tank pressure decreases to less than -11 in. H20).


ACTION TAKEN WHEN THE DTC SETS


The PCM will illuminate the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) during the first trip in which the diagnostic test has been run and failed.
The PCM will store conditions which were present when the DTC set as Freeze Frame and Fail Records data.


NOTE: Although these diagnostics are considered type A, they act like type B diagnostics under certain conditions. Whenever the EVAP diagnostics report that the system has passed, or if the battery has been disconnected, the diagnostic must fail during two consecutive cold start trips before setting a DTC. The initial failure is not reported to the diagnostic executive or displayed on a scan tool. A passing system always reports to the diagnostic executive immediately.


CONDITIONS FOR CLEARING THE MIL/DTC


The PCM will turn the MIL OFF during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic has been run and passed.

The history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles have occurred without a malfunction.
The DTC can be cleared by using the scan tool Clear Info function or by disconnecting the PCM battery feed.


DIAGNOSTIC AIDS
Check for the following conditions:


Poor connection at the PCM.
Inspect harness connectors for backed out terminals, improper mating, broken locks, improperly formed or damaged terminals, and poor terminal to wire connection.


Damaged harness.
Inspect the wiring harness for damage.


If the harness appears to be OK, connect the J 41413 EVAP pressure/purge diagnostic station to the EVAP service port, pressurize the EVAP system to 10 in. H2O and observe the Fuel Tank Pressure display on the scan tool while moving connectors and wiring harnesses related to the EVAP purge valve. A sudden change in the display will indicate the location of the malfunction.
Incorrect vacuum line routing.
Verify that the source vacuum line routing to the EVAP purge valve is correct and that the EVAP purge and source vacuum lines to the EVAP purge solenoid are not switched.


Malfunctioning or damaged canister.
A malfunctioning canister may intermittently allow charcoal into the EVAP purge solenoid, vacuum switch, and associated lines causing a DTC to be set. Use the following procedure to check for a carbon release condition:


Turn OFF the ignition switch.
Remove the EVAP purge valve.
Lightly tap the EVAP purge valve and (if applicable) the vacuum switch on a clean work area looking for carbon particles exiting either of the vacuum ports.
If no carbon release is evident, reinstall the components and continue with the DTC P1441 table. If carbon is being released from either component, continue with this service procedure.
Remove the charcoal canister from the vehicle.
Ensure that the main cylinder valve is turned off on the J 41413 EVAP purge/pressure diagnostic station.
Disconnect the black hose that connects the nitrogen cylinder to the EVAP purge/pressure diagnostic station at the pressure regulator by unscrewing the knurled nut on the regulator. No tools are required to remove the black hose from the regulator.
Using a section of vacuum line, connect one end over the open threaded fitting of the EVAP purge/pressure diagnostic station pressure regulator.
Connect the remaining end to the EVAP purge valve end of the EVAP purge line at the vehicle and turn on the main nitrogen cylinder valve. Continue to blow any debris from the purge line for 15 seconds.
Return the EVAP Pressure/Purge Diagnostic Station to its original condition by re-installing the black hose that was disconnected in step 7.
Replace the following components:
The EVAP purge valve.
The EVAP canister.
Proceed with the the DTC P1441 diagnostic table.
Reviewing the Fail Records vehicle mileage since the diagnostic test last failed may help determine how often the condition that caused the DTC to set occurs. This may assist in diagnosing the condition.


TEST DESCRIPTION
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.


If an EVAP purge valve electrical malfunction is present, the purge system will not operate correctly. Repairing the electrical malfunction will very likely correct the condition that set DTC P1441.
Checks the Fuel Tank Pressure sensor at ambient pressure
Checks for a stuck open EVAP purge valve.
Verifies that the fuel tank pressure sensor accurately reacts to EVAP system pressure changes.
If the EVAP purge and engine vacuum lines are switched at the EVAP purge solenoid, the solenoid valve will leak vacuum.
The PCM will command the EVAP purge and EVAP canister vent valves closed with the scan tool Seal System EVAP output control function activated. Fuel tank pressure should not decrease under this condition.


Hope this helps.
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P1441 evap system flow during nonpurge

CODE P1441 -- EVAP SYSTEM FLOW DURING NON PURGE CONDITIONS. POSSIBLE CAUSES. EVAP PURGE VALVE PIPE OR THE CHARCOAL CANISTER HAS A TEMPORARY BLOCKAGE. FTP SENSOR IS OUT OF CALIBRATION DAMAGED OR IT IS SKEWED. EVAP PURGE SOLENOID VALVE IS DAMAGED OR HAS FAILED. PCM HAS FAILED.
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Wont start and trouble code is p1441

P1441 Evaporative Emission System Flow During Non-Purge.


The vacuum system/Evaporative recovery system. Evap. (vapor cannister) code MAY be as a result of excessive fuel flow into the cylinders overloading the cannister's capacity. Possible cause is a failing Oxygen sensor giving a "Lean" indication to the engine computer, causing more fuel than is needed to be injected into the cylinders and captured by the vapor system. Trying to keep track of the changing readings may be taxing the computer's memory. Have the oxygen sensor checked. If it is functioning correctly, check for vacuum leaks, cracked or broken vacuum hoses.


Take you car to a professional as this is going to take some skill and knowledge to repair. Dont keep buying parts to fix the problem as this will get very expensive.


Here's a link to codes and what they mean http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm

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I have a code P1447 Evap purge flow monitor on my 97 Pathfinder. What is and how do I correct this issue?

P1447 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Control System, Purge Flow Monitor
In this evaporative emission (EVAP) control system, purge flow occurs during non-closed throttle conditions. Purge volume is related to air intake volume. Under normal purge conditions (non-closed throttle), the EVAP canister purge volume control solenoid valve is open to admit purge flow. Purge flow exposes the EVAP control system pressure sensor to intake manifold vacuum.

Under normal conditions (non-closed throttle), sensor output voltage indicates if pressure drop and purge flow are adequate. If not, a fault is determined. Malfunction is detected when EVAP control system does not operate properly, EVAP control system has a leak between intake manifold and EVAP control system pressure sensor.

Symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)

Possible causes
* EVAP canister purge volume control solenoid valve stuck closed
* EVAP control system pressure sensor and the circuit
* Loose, disconnected or improper connection of rubber tube
* Blocked rubber tube
* Cracked EVAP canister
* EVAP canister purge volume control solenoid valve circuit
* Closed throttle position switch
* Blocked purge port
* Closed throttle position switch


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Check engine code 1441 came on my '03 cavalier what is it?

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Trouble Code: P1441 (2.2L L4 VIN F Auto)
EVAP System Flow During Non-Purge Print this code dataprint_icon_codes.gif
Number of Trips to Set Code: 2
OBD II Monitor Type: CCM Details
Indicators: MIL Details
Trouble Code Conditions:
DTC P0107, P0108, P0112, P0113, P0117, P0118, P0121-P0123, P0125, P0440, P0442, P0443, P0446, P0449, P0452, P0453, P1106, P1107, P1111, P1112, P1114, P1115, P1121 and P1122 not set, engine started, vehicle speed less than 75 mph, system voltage over 10.0v, ECT and IAT sensors from 39-86ºF and within 16ºF at startup, BARO sensor over 75 kPa, fuel level from 15-85%, PCM detected a continuous open purge flow condition with the fuel tank pressure decreasing to less than -11" H2O during the test. The PCM seals the EVAP system by commanding the EVAP Purge valve "off" and the EVAP Canister Vent valve "on". The PCM monitors the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor to detect if a vacuum is being drawn on the EVAP system. If vacuum in the EVAP system is more than a set value for a certain time, this code is set.

Possible Causes:
  • An improperly installed or damaged EVAP canister purge valve
  • A temporary blockage in the EVAP canister purge valve, purge pipe, or EVAP canister could cause an intermittent condition
  • FTP sensor is out-of-calibration, damaged or "skewed"
  • Purge solenoid valve is damaged or has failed
  • PCM has failed
  • TSB 02-06-04-046 contains a repair procedure for this code
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Where is the purge solenoid location on a 1996 Chevrolet silverado 1500 ???? trucks runs bad and I was told it was that or some other vacuum leak also I have code p0300 and p1441 if anyone can help...

A P0300 DTC is a misfire code. The P1441 is a no flow during purge code which has to do with the purge solenoid. With the misfire code present I would say you have a vacuum leak on one of the hoses. The purge solenoid is located in the passenger side, rear of the intake manifold.
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