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In my 86 legend 2.5 how can I tell if the noise coming from or right around the valve covers is valves or timing chain

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Ask a local mechanic only an experianced spanners and grease man would know ,i cannot tell you over the internet sorry

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  4. Remove the upper radiator support insulator.
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