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How to take the drivers door panel off due to the

I need to take the drivers door panel off. The mirror adjustment switch quit working and i want to do a repair or replacement.

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Roll down the window completely. There should be 2 screws to remove on the inside of the panel.I believe there is one just behind the inner door handle and I think one on the door panel arm rest. There may be one more so if you see it, remove all of them. Then grab the bottom of the the panel with both hands (palms up) and pry out with a couple of quick hard tugs and the panel clips should snap free. Do this to the bottom, both sides and the top by the mirror allowing the panel to hang. look behind the panel and disconnect the power door lock and the power window connections. To remove the panel completely, push up from the bottom and remove. Keep an eye on the panel clips because they sometimes like to lock back into place while you pop the others out and it can be frustrating unless you are aware of it. There should be 3 nuts holding the mirror on the door to remove that will free the mirror. Reverse the steps to reinstall the panel.

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The thing to do first would be to hook up a factory or some other type professional scan tool an check for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes.

DTC B3377, B3382, B3387, B3392, B3397, B3452, B3457, B3462, B3467, B3472, B3477, B3482, B3517, or B3522

Circuit Description
The switch that failed and generated this diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is part of the driver door switch assembly (DDSA). The DDSA contains a microprocessor which takes the signal generated by this switch and assigns a digital message to it. The DDSA then sends this message over a power door serial data circuit to the driver door module (DDM).

Same thing for locks.

The DDM must be powered and must not have DTCs B1327-Battery Low Voltage or B1328-Battery High Voltage set for this DTC to set.

Your best bet might be to find a good auto electrician.
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DTC B1605 02: Mirror Motor 2 (horizontal) Circuit Short to Ground
DTC B1605 04: Mirror Motor 2 (horizontal) Circuit Open Circuit .
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