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Low beam and drl not working on 2002 vw golf, fuses good. Looking for ground.

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Check relays. Under the steering column, under a plastic plate fixed with bolts.

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No low beam. Good high beam. No day lights. What's wrong?

No on the fuse . The LH HDLP and RH HDLP fuse in the fuse block - under hood, supply battery positive voltage to both low and high beam lamps at all times. For manual operation, when the headlamp switch is in the ON position, the headlamp switch supplies ground directly to the headlamps and to the body control module (BCM) on the headlamp low or high beam signal circuit, depending on the position of the headlamp dimmer switch. The BCM uses this signal to determine if the conditions are present to illuminate the daytime running lamps or park lamps.
The headlamps may be turned on 2 different ways. First, when the driver places the headlamp switch in the ON position, for manual operation. Second, with the headlamp switch placed in the OFF position activating automatic lamp control (ALC).For ALC operation, the BCM receives a signal from the ambient light sensor indicating a low or high ambient, outside, light level. Under low light conditions the BCM grounds the headlamp relay control circuit energizing the headlamp control relay. The now closed relay supplies ground through the headlamp switch to the headlamps and the BCM on the headlamp low or high beam signal circuit, depending on the position of the headlamp dimmer switch. When the BCM grounds the headlamp relay control circuit it also grounds the park lamp relay control circuit illuminating the park lamps. The headlamp relay is grounded at G203.
Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)
The low beam headlamps operate at reduced intensity when in daytime running lamps (DRL) mode. The ground circuit to the switch side of the DRL relay has a resistor in-line to reduce the intensity of the low beam headlamps for DRL operation. The body control module (BCM) receives a signal from the ambient light sensor indicating a low or high ambient, outside, light level. Under daylight conditions the BCM grounds the DRL relay control circuit energizing the DRL control relay. The now closed relay supplies ground directly to the low beam headlamps and to the BCM on the headlamp low beam signal circuit. The low beam headlamps now illuminate with reduced intensity. The DRL relay is grounded at G203. Any time the headlamps are illuminated the DRL will not illuminate. Manual park lamps do not effect DRL operation.
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What else can I check for the passenger head light not working?

The info I looked at was w/o drl, easier diagram to read. Did you check for voltage at the proper fuse? Even if the fuse is good, if no voltage on the circuit, the circuit is still dead. Use a test light or something to check for voltage.

Did you check for voltage and ground at the headlamp connector, with headlamps on? Red wire is voltage. yellow wire and green wire are grounds. On and off, high and low beams are controlled on the ground circuit. Your headlamp switch and dimmer switch are part of the ground circuit.
If you have drl, the wiring may be a little different?
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No headlights on dim only work on bright

old post.(day)
low beams, they are.
both low beam lamps.dead but are PARK/tail dead too?. (a key fact needed here to save time finding cause)
there are more that one cause.
but fuses are first, some cars have 2 fuse.
one for highs and lows.
or for left and right.
they do that so at least some lights work and not all go out at once, on a dark rainy night on a country road (or cliff road)
GEO, the car brand GEO is sold mostly in USA and Canada
if in CANADA the law says its DRL lamps.
in canada they have a Drylight Running lamps and laws and have a unique controller for that (DRL module) and can fail and mess up lamps. so GOT DRL>?
on this car the fues box shows, left and right HL
the next question is does it run a relay.
answer,
DRL, the DRL module runs low beams totally so that be first.
and its DRL relay.
non DLR metro, works like this
im reading the online schematics for you, and so could you.
the no-DRL is brutally simple.
the fuse runs the lamps direct, means lamps hot all the time.
the park and head light switch, grounds the low beam wire feed.
no relays , magic , DRL just a simple switch, in the combo switch.
for you or others seaching Metro head lamps.
here is the schemo.
red/wht wire must be 0v on low beams if not switch bad.
if g200 is good, but g200 is used in highs so can NOT BE BAD.
as you can see the switch grounds the HL lines below.
to make the lamps GLOW,

23880969-flsdwf0rx41rbdaez4cmhnol-2-0.jpg good luck to metros
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Honda CR-V 2005 low beam out while the bulb and fuse are still OK

both LOW BEAMS (you make this so hard not saying that...)
but challenging.....

is car in canada, or usa? or a?
does car have DRL. we dont know ,until you say.
and both types work different, non- and DRL.
my answer (roll dice, ) USA. no DRL

the system is simple (alldata.com)
2 fues, left and right
2 relays, one left, one right.
1 controller box.
1 switch combo.

the sequence of events
HL switch on,
this ground the Low pin on the mutiplex control box in fuse box.
this box sends 2 ground signals to both relays.
so if one headlight works you know the mpx box works
both relays close
and 12v is sent to both low beams , and there other side is grounded full time so they glow.
there are 2 fuse left and right. fuse #15 and 17



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Daytime running lights not working

if replacing the high beam bulbs do not fix the DRL issue ,see my tip under 2001 to 2005 civic daytime module repair.The accord you have has the same module.
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Toyota echo no low beams only.

there should be separate relays for your headlights inside the fuse panel under the hood drivers side fender
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2003 sunfire ..... low beams were working one minute ,shut off car for two minutes got back in car started it ,now i have no low beams or fogs.i checked bulbs and fuses both are good , could it be the DRL...

Headlamps
The headlamps are operated when the driver places the headlamp switch in the HEADLAMP position. The LT HDLP and RT HDLP fuse in the IP fuse block, supply battery positive voltage to both the left and right headlamps. The low beam and high beam circuits continue to the headlamp switch. Depending on the position of the dimmer switch, either the low or high beam circuit will now have a path to ground. Ground is provided at G204. The low beam and high beam circuits also provide the body control module (BCM) with both low and high beam inputs. The headlamp switch includes the dimmer and the flash-to-pass switch.
If the headlight switch is left in the HEADLAMP position, the headlights will remain on until turned off or the battery runs dead.
Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)
Any function that turns on the headlights will cancel the daytime running lamps operation. The LT HDLP fuse in the IP fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to the daytime running lamp (DRL) relay coil circuit. The DRL relay switch contacts are connected to the low beam circuit. When the headlamp switch is placed in the OFF position, the BCM will turn on the daytime running lamps. The BCM energizes the DRL relay, closing the switch contacts and grounding the low beam circuit at G204. The DRL illuminate the low beam headlights at a reduced intensity. The DRL will operate when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, the gear selector is not in the PARK position and the parking brake is released. When these conditions have been met the DRL will illuminate.
DRL operation in Manual Transmission equipped vehicles will occur when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, and the parking brake is released.

Probably the dimmer switch . But without testing that would be just a guess . Turnning the headlamps on Any function that turns on the headlights will cancel the daytime running lamps operation..
No ,don't think the DRL relay has anything to do with it .

View wiring diagrams an testing the electrical circuits at the dimmer switch would be the proper way to diagnose .
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Daytime Running Lights Inoperative 2002 Toyota Camry

[Information] For a 2002 Toyota Camry, the Daytime Running Lights (DRL) operate utilizing the High Beams (inner Lamps closer to the center of the vehicle front) at a reduced power.

[The troubleshooting process:] Review the Owner's Manual and ensure the test configuration matches the following criteria:
1. According to the 2002 Toyota Camry Owner's Manual (Check your Owners Manual):
"The DRL system will make your headlights come on at a reduced brightness when:
The light switch s in the "DRL" position.
The ignition is on with the engine running.
The headlight switch is off.
The parking brake is released."


2. Set the Test Conditions according to Step 1 above.

3. Check the headlight bulbs to ensure they are not burned out. If one burns out, there is a fair chance that the other would have burned out at the same time. Replace as necessary. In this case, if the high beams operate, the DRLs should also operate.
4. Test the system, ensuring the step 1 conditions are set. (Engine running, Multi-function Switch on Turn Signals in "DRL" position, headlight switch off (repeating what the manual says -- it should be obvious that in the "DRL" position, the headlight switch should be off / do not have the switch positioned to "High Beam"), and the Parking Brake "off").
5. If DRL lights do not work, check the engine compartment Fuse and Relay Box. there is a 5 Amp DRL fuse -- replace it with the spare. Test (step 4).
6. If it does not work, swap around or replace relays -- there are three (3). Any one of them could be bad (stuck or burned out). Test (step 4).
7. Other less likely possible issues could be that the Multi-function Switch is broken or a connection / wire is broken. [Beyond the scope of this process.]


My problem was that the test configuration did not have the engine running and parking brake off - Step 1. Problem solved with much thought, repetitive tests on the vehicle and going back to the basics -- what does the Owner's Manual say and where are the applicable fuses and relays located?

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No headlights

You need to start by checking the fuse for your headlights (low beams). The DRL could be be bad, but I have not seen them go out very often.
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I have a 1998 cavilier i have no low beams,fuses checked good

 I’m inclined to believe you have a headlight switch problem and here’s why. There are 2 fuses one for each of the headlights on the vehicle. For the daytime running lights (DRL) to operate the fuse and wiring to the right head light has to be good, because it supplies the power for both headlights in the DRL mode. The fuse and wiring for the left headlight has to be good because the DRL relay needs power from that fuse to operate. The DRL relay in turn provides a path through the left headlight and wiring to ground. When you pull back on the dimmer switch, you are activating the flash to pass circuit of the headlight switch assembly. Because the flash to pass mode works you then know that the high beam wiring and headlight bulbs are in good condition. This also tells you that the ground circuit for the headlight switch is good. In many newer vehicles, the headlight switch doesn't provide power to the lights. The headlight switch has now become the path to ground to complete the circuit. The headlight switch and the high/low beam dimmer control are one assembly so when you replace one you get the other free. Such a deal! My coffee bet is on the headlight switch assembly.
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