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2001 ford windstar-new coil pack,new spark plugs and new wires....same problem. cyl. 3 & 4 not firing. Plugs good wires good. Getting signal from comp. to coil, 2nd coil pack. No corrorion on wire connections on comp. or coil. Were do I go next?

  • gtyner May 11, 2010

    Are the plugs getting fire? Maybe fuel injectors. Spark + no gas = no fire, Just a thought.

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then bad coil pack.

did you check spark directly at the coil pack?

i use 2 known good HV wires to do that and 2 good test spark plugs.

both plugs grounded to engine (shell)

that is how you test any wasted spark coil pack. 3 coil pack.

if that fails the FSM shows, unplugging it and check the coil resistances. if wrong the pack is bad,

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if tool-less? start with cheap parts , work to expensive. (guessing)





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if one line opens , both spark plugs die. no spark

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(carbon string wire)

mag wires is real wire that is coil spun and is inductive. it

has the correct impedance but is not a resistor its and inductor.

and lasts the longest , and worth every penny.
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