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1990 318i engine no compression yet timing chain ok cam and lifters working pistons going up and down has spark 0 compression wont start

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NO COMPRESSION SOUND LIKE YOU NEED NEW COMPRESSION RINGS AND OIL RINGS WORN CYLINDER BORE AND WORN VALVES + SEATS. THIS MEANS ENGINE OVERHAUL.ANY TIME YOU LOSE ENGINE COMPRESSION TIME FOR OVERHAUL THE ENGINE IS WORN OUT.THE CAM LIFTERS AND PISTON WILL MOVE WHEN YOU CRANK IT.BUT WITH NO COMPRESSION ENGINE CANT RUN.

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I suggest you bring the pistons to TDC, one at time on the comprssion stroke and do a "cylinder leakage test". Put compressed air into the spark plug hose and try to detect where the air is going. If you have the piston exactly at TDC, it will stay there when you put conpressed air in the hole, if it's off a little it will push the piston down. If you have the valve cover off you can watch the valves to determine if you have the pistons on the compression stroke. You should be able to buy a fitting from an auto parts store that will thread into the spark plug hole. If not take an old spark plug and bust the guts out of it and weld a pipe fitting to it to adapt your air compressor hose.

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Did it ever start again after the stall on the interstate?

If not, I'm leaning towards the timing chain.

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