I have a 1994 F-350 with a glow-plug issue when you first turn the key to the on position the wait to start comes on for 2 sec goes out an the relay controller starts to tick like a clock for about 15 sec then stops I already have change the relay controller is there another timer some where ???

If your truck is a diesel, it is probably a glow plug problem, check the glow plug fuse, if not blown, check the glow plugs

81418784532&item=281418784532">G1900 Kubota, the glow plugs are energized when the keyswitch is moved halfway to the start position. Also the glow plug indicator light is illuminated when in this position. I hold the key in that position until the glow plug light goes out, and then crank the engine. On really cold days I repeat the glow plug cycle several times before cranking.

THIS COMES ALL FROM "WAIT TO START" DO YOU WAIT TO START? IF NOT,THEN THE GLOW PLUGS ARE BUR'NT OUT,WHICH YOU WILL NOT NEED UNTIL FALL. OR MAYBE YOU'VE GOT IT HOOKED ON EITHER,STARTING FLUID,IN WHICH CASE,I SUGGEST YOU REPLACE THOSE GLOW PLUGS NOW.OR ELSE YOU'RE MOVING ON TO EVEN WORSE ISSUES.LET ME ASK YOU THIS,WHY ARE'NT THE GLOW PLUGS BEING DENIED POWER? AFTER ALL THEY START THE ENGINE? AFTER YOU INSERT THE KEY INTO THE SWITCH,WAIT TO START,LIGHTS UP.IF YOU'VE NOT WAITED UNTIL THAT WAIT TO START LIGHT GOES OFF,,,YOU'VE BURNT THE GLOW PLUGS UP.THE ONLY THING TO DO IS REPLACE THEM ALL.IF YOU'VE BEEN USING STARTING FLUID OR EITHER TO START YOUR ENGINE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME,FORGET REPLACING THE GLOW PLUGS,BECAUSE YOUR ENGINE IS ADDICTED TO THE BOTTLE(EITHER) YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES,REPLACING THE GLOW PLUGS MAY RESOLVE YOUR ISSUES.BUT,WAIT TO START,,AIN'T NO JOKE. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU & YOURS!

it sounds like a glow plug issue. perhaps a bad glow plug relay. I would think its the relay if the problem comes and goes. If it were a bad glow plug the problem would be constant. check for volts at the glow plugs next time the car acts up. If you find no volts, tap on the glow plug relay next time you turn the key on. This may cause it to activate. if so then replace relay

i think glow plug replacement needed. ever used starting fluid in cold to start?try this, next time no start, cycle your key and let the light come on, wait till it goes off, turn key again until light goes off, if you have to do this more than 3 times, and it runs fine, replace the glow plugs only then. thank you for choosing fixya.com!

Are you waiting after turning ignition key on before actually moving key to start position? My diesel I turn key to 1st position;bells and lights;if engine is cold an amber light that looks like a lamp filiment comes on...wait until that light goes out before engaging the starter.

Not sure about this engine but some diesels have a relay that looks like a voltge regulator , like the one thats for your starter, and a seperate glow plug controller. Find out if you have 2 seperate components and consider checking both. This what your relay should look like, The 7.3 L has it on top of the engine near the front and between the valve covers. Hold an insulated handled screwdriver to connect both larger studs and keep them connected for 30 sec.s, this jumps the relay. If your glow plugs work after this, then the relay is your problem.

The wait to start light always comes on for at least 1 sec, if it goes off early it must think the engine is warm.

My guess is you have a faulty engine oil temp sensor that is telling the pcm that it is already warm. The only way to know for sure is to read the info with a scan tool.

Glow Plug System: Description and Operation
GLOW PLUG SYSTEM
The 6.0L diesel engine uses a glow plug system that preheats air in the combustion chamber to improve cold engine starting.
The system consists of:
- glow plugs.
- glow plug control module.
- powertrain control module (PCM).
- engine oil temperature (EOT) sensor.
- barometric pressure sensor (BARO sensor).
The glow plug monitor system is part of the On-Board Diagnostics II (OBD II) System.
The glow plug system is electronically controlled by the powertrain control module. If the oil temperature is below 55°C (131°F) the powertrain
control module will energize the glow plugs immediately after the key is placed in the ON position. Then, depending on the readings from the engine
oil temperature (EOT) sensor and the barometric pressure (BARO) sensor, the powertrain control module determines how long the glow plugs will be
on.
The glow plugs are located in the cylinder heads, under the glow plug buss bar.
The glow plugs are self-regulating. If the engine oil temperature is above 55°C (131°F), the powertrain control module will bulb-check the WAIT TO
START lamp but not energize the glow plug relay.
The glow plug ON time varies from 0-120 seconds depending on battery voltage, engine oil temperature and barometric pressure.
The glow plug control monitor (GPCM) system is designed to find failed glow plugs or failed wiring in the glow plug system.

if you need connectors and terminals for the glow plug connections under the valve cover, Ford sells then so you don't need a whole $600 harness.

info for your use

Section 03-07B: Glow Plug System 1996 F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty Equipped with 7.3L Diesel Engines Workshop Manual
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION Glow Plug System The 7.3L diesel engine uses a glow plug system which preheats air in the combustion chamber to improve cold engine starting. The system consists of eight glow plugs, the glow plug control module (12B533), powertrain control module (PCM) (12A650), engine oil temperature (EOT) sensor and barometric pressure sensor (BARO sensor) (12A644). The glow plug system is electronically controlled by the powertrain control module. The powertrain control module energizes the glow plugs immediately after the key is placed in the ON position and then determines how long the glow plugs will be on according to the engine oil temperature and the barometric pressure. The required time for the glow plugs to be energized decreases as the engine oil temperature and barometric pressure increase. The glow plugs are self-regulating, and the powertrain control module controls relay ON time. The powertrain control module protects the glow plugs by energizing them for short durations if the battery voltage is abnormally high.

Possible Causes: Insufficient glow plug ON time will not allow enough heat to accumulate in the combustion chamber to easily facilitate starting. If the glow plug system ON time does not meet any of the specifications in the accompanying chart the problem is most likely a faulty wire harness connection, ground connections or glow plug relay.

If the glow plug resistance to ground is high, the most likely causes are an open UVC (under valve cover) harness or open glow plug.
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Relay Operation
Install a DVOM on the glow plug feed side of the glow plug relay (large stud with two wires connected). Turn the ignition key to the ON position but do not attempt to start. Note the time in seconds from when the key is turned on and the glow plug relay energizes until the glow plug relay de-energizes. The glow plug relay makes a loud click noise which is easily heard when it energizes and de-energizes. The dome light will dim and the dash voltmeter will dip when the glow plugs are drawing current from the battery. Compare the times measured to the table (time will be affected by engine temperature, battery condition and vehicle altitude). The voltage at the glow plug feed terminal may vary from 9 to 12 volts depending upon battery condition.
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If battery voltage not present check for B+ at power supply terminal (terminal with single large wire). Power for glow plug power supply is supplied from starter relay through two fusible links at solenoid.
Glow Plug Operation
Disconnect all of the glow plug/injector harness connectors from the valve cover gaskets. With the pigtail installed, measure glow plug resistance to ground (preferably B-). A resistance measurement of .1 to 6 ohms indicates a good glow plug.



Glow Plug Harness Continuity
Measure for continuity from the connector harness to the glow plug feed terminal on the glow plug relay. Resistance should be less than 5 ohms.
Incorrect measurements will result if all glow plug/injector connectors to valve cover are not disconnected.

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Glow Plug Relay The glow plug relay (12A343) has a plastic base and two mounting bolts. It is operated by the powertrain control module (PCM) (12A650) which senses engine oil temperature, PCM voltage and barometric pressure. When the engine oil temperature or the barometric pressure is low, the PCM activates the glow plug relay and the glow plugs. If the PCM voltage is too high, the powertrain control module deactivates the glow plug relay and the glow plugs immediately energize for a shorter duration, decreasing the modulation of the duty cycle.
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Glow Plug Removal

1. WARNING: THE RED-STRIPED WIRING HARNESS CARRIES 115V DC. SEVERE ELECTRICAL SHOCK MAY BE RECEIVED. DO NOT PIERCE.
   Remove valve cover (6582). Refer to Section 03-01D .
   

1. Disconnect glow plug electrical connector using a pair of pliers.
   

1. Remove glow plug using 10mm socket.
   

1. Clean and inspect glow plug tip for damage. Replace if damaged.
   

Installation

1. Install glow plug and tighten to 19 Nm (14 lb-ft).
   

1. Connect glow plug electrical connector. Make sure glow plug wiring is routed to avoid moving parts.
   

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Glow Plug Control Glow plugs are used to warm the cylinders to improve cold-engine starting. The PCM uses the engine oil temperature (EOT) sensor and barometric pressure (BARO) sensor to determine how long the glow plugs will be on. The PCM energizes the glow plugs longer if the engine is very cold or if the barometric pressure is low at high altitudes.
The PCM controls the relay that supplies power to the glow plugs with the glow plug control (GPC) signal. When the GPC signal is grounded by the PCM the relay closes, turning the glow plugs on.
The glow plugs are controlled by the following sequence:

1. PCM energizes the glow plugs.

1. The PCM energizes the glow plugs immediately after the ignition is placed in the ON position.

1. The PCM then determines how long glow plugs will be on based on EOT sensor and the BARO sensor. The required time to warm up the cylinder decreases the engine oil temperature and barometric pressure increases at low altitudes.

Glow Plug Lamp Control The glow plug lamp (GPL) signal controls the WAIT TO START light located on the instrument panel. This light is used to indicate when to start the engine. The cylinders are being warmed by the glow plugs during and after this light is lit. The PCM energizes the glow plug lamp longer if the engine is very cold or if the barometric pressure is low.
When the GPL signal is brought low, the "Wait to Start" lamp is turned on.
The glow plug lamp is controlled by the following sequence:

1. PCM lights the WAIT TO START light after a key on reset occurs.

The PCM determines the glow plug lamp activation time based on engine oil temperature, barometric pressure and battery voltage.

1. PCM turns off the WAIT TO START light.

The glow plug lamp is turned off when the timer counts to the number of seconds specified by the PCM. The glow plugs will normally remain on longer than the "Wait to Start" lamp.
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