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Regal Lace Posted on Jan 10, 2010
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I HAVE A 1996 DODGE NEON WITH A P05O5 CODE IDLE AIR CONTROL SYSTEM.WHAT IS THE FIX FOR THIS

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  • Regal Lace Jan 10, 2010

    THE MOTOR IDLES HIGH I TRYED A NEW TPS SENSOR THAT DID NOTHING

    IT KEEPS GIVING ME THE SAME CODE

  • Regal Lace Jan 10, 2010

    2.0L

  • Regal Lace Jan 10, 2010

    MANUAL TRANS

  • Regal Lace Jan 10, 2010

    this problem happened once before this,but it stopped and it worked fine i changed the tps and it idling fast again,so iput the old tps back on, first when i started it it was ok for about 10 sec .then it started idling up and down again.would the idle ctrl valve have anything to do with this?

  • Regal Lace Jan 13, 2010

    thank u for your help.the info was ver helpful

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Did you do any maintenance prior to this problem?

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    Greg Bernett Jan 10, 2010

    ok...what size of motor?

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    Greg Bernett Jan 10, 2010



    Number of Trips to Set Code: 2

    OBD II Monitor Type: CCM Details
    Indicators:

    Trouble Code Conditions:

    Engine started; system voltage over 11.5v and the PCM detected an unexpected voltage condition on one or more of the IAC motor circuits for 2.75 seconds (exc. Viper) or for 100ms (Viper), with the IAC motor active.



    Possible Causes:



        Stepper motor Coil No. 1, 2, 3 or 4 circuit open or shorted to ground


        Stepper motor coil circuit(s) shorted to system power (B+)


        Stepper motor is damaged or has failed


        PCM has failed

  • Greg Bernett
    Greg Bernett Jan 10, 2010





    Monitor Details: CCM

    Comprehensive Component Monitor Overview

    Current EPA and OBD II regulations require that all emission related circuits and components controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) that could affect emissions be monitored for circuit continuity and out-of-range faults. The Comprehensive Component Monitor (CCM) consists of four different monitoring strategies: two strategies for input signals and two strategies for output signals.

    Note: The CCM is usually a 1-trip Monitor for emission faults on these vehicle applications.

    First Input Test Strategy

    One input strategy is used to check devices with analog inputs for opens, shorts, or out-of-range values. The CCM accomplishes this task by monitoring the A/D converter input voltages.The analog signals monitored by the CCM include the signals from sensors listed below: * Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor * Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor * Manifold Air Pressure (MAP) Sensor * Throttle Position (TP) Sensor * Transmission Fluid Temperature (TFT) Sensor * Transmission Range (TR) Sensor

    Second Input Test Strategy

    A second input strategy is used to check devices with digital and frequency inputs by performing rationality checks. The PCM uses other sensor readings and calculations to determine if a sensor or switch reading is correct under current conditions. Some rationality tests run continuously while others only run after the device is enabled or energized (i.e., when the device is turned "on" or "off").Some of the sensors and switches monitored by the CCM are shown below: * A/T Input Shaft Speed (ISS) Sensor * A/T Output Shaft Speed (OSS) Sensor * Camshaft Position (CKP) Sensor * Crankshaft Position (CMP) Sensor * Mass Airflow Sensor * Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS)

    Input Signal Test Graphic






    Output State Monitor

    An Output State Monitor in the PCM checks output devices for open or shorted conditions by observing the control voltage level of the related device as it is operated.During testing the control voltage of the device should be low with it enabled, and high with it disabled. The output devices monitored by the CCM include the Alternator Field Control, Automatic Shutdown (ASD), Coil Driver, EGR Solenoid, Fuel Injectors, Fuel Pump (FP) Relay, Speed Control (S/C) Vacuum and Speed Control (S/C) Vent control circuits.

    Output State Monitor Graphic

    Freeze Frame Data The PCM stores the current operating conditions at the time a trouble code is set in a special portion of memory called Freeze Frame. This important information can be retrieved with an OBD II compatible Scan Tool, and can be used to help diagnose the cause of a trouble code related to this OBD II Monitor.Component Monitor Repair Verification An example of how to drive a vehicle to verify the repair of a trouble code related to the CCM on these vehicle applications is shown in the Graphic below.






    Repair Verification Graphic



  • Greg Bernett
    Greg Bernett Jan 10, 2010

    Yes, Idle control valve is what is controlling the idle speed. It appears that yours is bad if you have swapped the TSP.

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