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Rebuilt engine. when started again car ticks. timing marks aligned correctly, timing light shows 20 deg. what gives?

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Most likely the hydraulic valve lifters, notoriously noisy in Mitsubishi engines. My 2007 Galant Ralliart Mivec 3.8 V6 with less than 15000 miles ticks also as did my 1989 Gallant and 1997 Eclipse.

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If the timing is still of even with the correct timing on the timing belt, I would check the crankshaft and camshaft sensors for proper operation.

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MItsu has an upgraded lifter that will fix the problem. About $200 a set if I remember correctly.

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