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I have a Subaru 2001 2.5L SHO and when aligning all timing marks the engine seem to not want to rotate....feals like it might be toughting piston to valves.

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It sounds like your crank timing is 180 degrees out you need to take the belt off and turn the crank 180 and realine timing marks then refit the belt hope that helps

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2. Rotate the crankshaft to align the timing mark of the crankshaft gear with the index mark on the engine cover.
3.Rotate the crankshaft +/- 30 degrees to ensure that the valve could not hit the pistons when aligning the camshaft gears.
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To position your crankshaft and cam to the correct position, it should be done BEFORE removing the belt if possible. If the belt has already been removed and/or the belt was broken, the same principles apply, but you will have to go about it completely different.

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Now if the belt has already been removed or if the belt was broken, You may have to temporarily put the outer cover back on. You may have to put it on and take it off several times until you get things lined up. Time the crankshaft "Os" first. It will not matter which rotation you are on if the belt is not installed. (TDC is TDC - the piston doesn't really care where the valves are - that's the camshaft's problem LOL)
After the crank shaft is lined up, turn the camshaft so the timing marks line up with the pointer. Then remove the front cover and install your belt.

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I received this explanation for the 1800 Subaru Leone (same vehicle i think) from another forum. Have yet to make use of it but I hope it helps.

Find top dead centre of Crankshaft. (there are 3 timing marks close together, the middle one is TDC). If you are still unsure then remove number one spark plug and insert a long small screw driver down the hole with the piston near the top of it's stroke. As you rock the engine over back and forth you will feel TDC with the screw driver. By tracing the number one cylinder plucg lead back the distributor cap and then removing the cap you should be able to see if the engine is at number one in the firing sequence.

Rotate the drivers side camshaft

Now rotate the crankshaft one hole turn till the 3 marks are re-aligned.

Now rotate the passenger side camshaft until the hole in the sprocket lines up the the slot in the top of the cam cover. Put belt on.

Rotate the crankshaft 2 whole turns and double check that the sprockets still line up to their respective marks.

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