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I have 2002 mish. montero sport,3.5,I'm need to reinstall timing belt.How do I set#1 on comp.stroke.Do I position crank sprocket timing mark about 1/4 before the embossed pointer for 5 degree TDC?

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The easiest way to get the crank to TDC is to pull the #1 spark plug and just watch for the piston to be at the top of the stroke. You can either look down the hole with a light or use a small screwdriver to rest on the top of the piston and watch for it to be at full stroke. just make sure that you are gentle as to not damage anything.

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    But there should still be a mark on the timing gear that needs to align with a mark on the block or housing. And all marks on the crank and cams have to be in alignment when the new belt is installed.

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SOURCE: 1991 mazda b2200- timing belt changed

The keyway and or the dot on the crank should be line at 12 oclock. You will see a point on the oil pump housing to go by. On the camshaft the pointer will be at 12 oclock also. Use the O on the camshaft to the top at mark. Be sure to look at the dist. roter to make sure that it is pointing at the #1 spark plug wire. I could get 180 out of time. If you do it right it should start up right away. then you can use a timing light to finish it.
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SOURCE: 1997AudiA6Quatro2.8L-aligning cam and crankshaft for timing belt

You must find the cam lock bar and crank lock pin to do this job properly, otherwise you can bend some valves and that becomes expensive..the front crank damper has a mark to line up with a mark on the timing cover for #1 TDC, but the cam lock bar is what aligns the cams into position. The crank lock pin is helpful but not 100% necessary...

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  • Posted on Nov 25, 2009

SOURCE: Timing marks on 1999 Ford Ranger 2.5L.

Rotate the engine so that No. 1 cylinder is at TDC on the compression stroke. Check that the timing marks are aligned on the camshaft and crankshaft pulleys. An access plug is provided in the cam belt cover so that the camshaft timing can be checked without removal of the cover or any other parts. Set the crankshaft to TDC by aligning the timing mark on the crank pulley with the TDC mark on the belt cover. Look through the access hole in the belt cover to make sure that the timing mark on the cam drive sprocket is lined up with the pointer on the inner belt cover.

  1. Loosen the alternator retaining bolts and remove the drive belt from the pulleys. Remove the water pump pulley.
  2. Loosen and position the power steering pump mounting bracket and position it aside.
  3. Remove the four timing belt outer cover retaining bolts and remove the cover. Remove the crankshaft pulley and belt guide.
  4. Loosen the belt tensioner pulley assembly, then position a camshaft belt adjuster tool (T74P-6254-A or equivalent) on the tension spring rollpin and retract the belt tensioner away from the timing belt. Tighten the adjustment bolt to lock the tensioner in the retracted position.
  5. Remove the timing belt.

To install:
  1. Install the new belt over the crankshaft sprocket and then counterclockwise over the auxiliary and camshaft sprockets, making sure the lugs on the belt properly engage the sprocket teeth on the pulleys. Be careful not to rotate the pulleys when installing the belt.
  2. Release the timing belt tensioner pulley, allowing the tensioner to take up the belt slack. If the spring does not have enough tension to move the roller against the belt (belt hangs loose), it might be necessary to manually push the roller against the belt and tighten the bolt.

The spring cannot be used to set belt tension; a wrench must be used on the tensioner assembly.
  1. Rotate the crankshaft two complete turns by hand (in the normal direction of rotation) to remove the slack from the belt, then tighten the tensioner adjustment and pivot bolts to specifications. Refer to the necessary illustrations. Make sure the belt is seated properly on the pulleys and that the timing marks are still in alignment when No. 1 cylinder is again at TDC/compression.
  2. Install the crankshaft pulley and belt guide.
  3. Install the timing belt cover.
  4. Install the water pump pulley and fan blades. Install upper radiator hose if necessary. Refill the cooling system.
  5. Position the alternator and drive belts, then adjust and tighten it to specifications.
  6. Start the engine and check the ignition timing. Adjust the timing, if necessary.

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1. Remove the engine cover

2. Remove the drive bell.

3. Remove the idler pulley, crankshaft pulley, power steering pulley and tensioner

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4. Remove the upper and lower timing belt cover.

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6. Remove the auto tensioner.

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'. Remove the timing bell.

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Method of installing timing bell and auto tensioner

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1. Install the idler pulley to the engine support lower bracket.

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2. Install the tensioner arm, shaft and plain washer to the cylinder block.

Tightening torque: 35 -55 Nm (350-550 kg-cm, 25.82 -40.57 ft. lbs.)

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3. Install the crankshaft sprocket.

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Caution: Align the spacer with a pin, and assemble it exerting even force not to

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4. Install the camshaft sprocket. Align it like initial state as shown.

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5. Install the auto tensioner to the oil pump case.

Image 9

Caution: At this time the auto tensioner's set pin should be assembled completely.

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6. Align the timing marks of each sprocket and install the timing bell, maintaining the

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pulley -> Left bank exhaust camshaft sprocket -> Left bank intake camshaft sprocket

-> Water pump pulley -> Right bank intake camshaft sprocket -> Right bank exhaust

camshaft sprocket -> Tensioner pulley.

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1 As a result of this, position of No.1 cylinder comes to compression TDC.

2 As each camshaft sprocket tends to rotate by itself, pay attention not to injure

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3 In case the right bank camshaft sprocket rotates excessively, be cautious not to

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S. With tensioner pulley slightly pushing the belt down, tighten the center bolt

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9. Pull out the auto tensioner set pin


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1) After rotating crankshaft 1/4 revolution reversely, rotate it clockwise to position

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tension with tensioner pulley socket (Two pins are attached) and torque wrench.

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2) Pull out the auto tensioner fixing pin.

2. How to check tension (While auto tensioner is operating: and fixing pin being

un-installed.)

1) After rotating crankshaft 2 revolutions clockwise to position No.1 cylinder at

TDC wait for about 5 minutes, and measure the amount of protruding of the auto

tensioner rod.

Caution: This is "leak down" time for the auto tensioner rod to protrude 1mm

when tension caused by rotation of the crankshaft has changed.

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2) Check if the amount of rod protruding is in the range of 3.8 -4.5 mm.

3. Recheck if each sprocket is within the specified range.

Notice: ¡fit is not within the specified range, repeat from procedure 6 as service

procedure of timing bell and auto tensioner installation method. Refer to Timing

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Fig. 2: 2.3L & 2.6L Timing Alignment Marks
Courtesy of Isuzu Motor Co.

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