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2002 e46 330ci no crank , no start, new battery, fuel pump primes, tried two keys and still no luck. No luck with basic key. Car has history of new batteries because low mileage car in winter storage

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Does the starter turn the engine over or just nothing? If it does not turn over but your battery is good you may have a sticking starter motor. It may just need a light tap.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 29, 2011

SOURCE: when key is turned everything

Check to see if the security light is on. Sounds like you have an antitheft mode problem. If you can jump it on the starter but not at ignition, sounds like the security is blocking you.
If there is a light on your dash that says security when you put the key forward, read this info.


So the Security light is on or flashing in your vehicle and you are looking at 1 of 3 things. Either the vehicle won't crank over and start, It cranks but dies in a few seconds, or your vehicle shuts off while driving scaring the **** out of you. You have now experienced GM's worst security system ever created. GM's security, also known as Passlock Passkey or Vats.

There are 3 parts in this system.
1.The CHIPKEY
Normally a black resister chip in key which "communicates" to the lock cylinder. Sometimes is hidden in the plastic part of keys in new models. Same concept, might say PK1 PK2 PK3 PL or something similar to that. The newer ones work on frequency. Same thing tho.
2.The LOCK CYLINDER
Inside there are pins that read the chip in the key or the part that reads the frequency on new models. This then "communicates" to the TDM)
3.The TDM
Theft Deterrant Module-Sometimes called the "computer" or "brain". This is the part that sends the signal (**NOTE**) to your car and allows your car to start or continue running depending on your type of system.
If any of these parts are not communicating properly, your SECURITY light will come on and shut down your vehicle. The idea being, that without the chipped key or FOB key, the vehicle wont start and cant be "hotwired" or stolen. Pretty nice when working, but these systems are flawed and the average life is 6-10 years. Every single aspect of this system is expensive to replace and can only be worked on by "authorized" GM service men with out voiding warrenty. Most garages dont even touch them and if they do,
they will sell you every part they can before "fixing" the problem/
*QUICK FIX TRICKS*
1st trick
Try a spare key that is newer or used less. The pins wear down with use and so do the keys causing the security to fail.

2nd trick
(if not starting) turn the key forward 2 clicks till right before it would normally start, leave like that for 10 minutes. ( no less ) After 10 minutes, turn key back then forward and your car might start. I did this in my Buick for more than a year. If its shutting down while running, I'm sorry I have no quick fix...

*PERMINANT FIX*
Well since the lifespan of these systems are so short, and are extremely expensive to fix, and in my opinion far worse of a threat to owners than theives, my only perminant suggestion is to eliminate it completely. After a year of 10 minute tricks and a "key bypass" that lasted 2 months and stranded me out of state, ($375 tow charge) i have only one good suggestion. After surfing the web for hours thru forums and websites i came across http://newrockies.com/passkey to the starter or injectors and so on. Thus eliminating the ENTIRE system completely. I came upon a fork in my road. A TDM for $600 in my $1000 car or the $200 bypass. Or throw my car away. Lets say i now drive a Buick with the chip ripped out of the key and the TDM sitting in my glovebox for show
and tell. If you have any questions or anything else. Comment on this post
and i'll get an E-mail to reply to you. If you do choose to buy the bypass,
i have pictures of what a TDM looks like and will definately help you when
installing the newrockies bypass. Good luck
Here is a list of known effected cars that can be fixed with the
newrockies bypass. This is the same list from the site and updates
frequently.
Trucks
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GMC/Chevy
1998-2006 S10/T10/Sonoma
/Blazer/Jimmy
1998-2007 Suburban/Avalanche
/Tahoe/Yukon
1998-2006 Sierra/Silverado
2002-2008 Trailblazer
2003-2006 SSR
1998-2006 C1500/C2500/C3500
1998-2006 K1500/K2500/K3500
2003-2007 Hummer H2
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Isuzu
1998-2000 Hombre
2005-2006 I280/I350
2007-2008 I290/I370
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Cars/Vans
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Isuzu
2003-2007 Ascender
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Pontiac
1994-2003 Grand Prix
1998-1999 Montana
2006 Torrent
1996-2005 Grand AM
1994-1998 Trans Sports
1988-1999 Bonneville
1988-2002 Firebird
1995-2005 Sunfire
1996-2002 Trans Am
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Buick
2004-2007 Rainier
1994-1996 Century
1993-1996 Regal
1982-1999 LeSabre
1991-1996 Park Avenue / Ultra
1994-1996 Roadmaster
1991-1996 Roadmaster Estate Wagon
1982-1999 Riviera
1988-1991 Reatta
1996-1998 Skylark
1982-1990 Electra (all models)
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Oldsmobile
1996-1998 Achieva
1999-2004 Alero
1994-2004 Aurora
1998-2004 Bravada
1991-1993 Delta 88
1994-1999 Eighty-Eight
1991-1996 Nighty-Eight
1998-2002 Intrigue
1990-1992 Toronado
1994-1997 Cutlass Supreme
1997-1999 Cutlass
1997-1999 LSS/Regency
1997-1999 Silhouette
1991-1996 Custom Cruiser
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Chevrolet/GMC
1998-2005 Astro/Safari
1998-2008 Envoy
2005-2006 Equinox
1998-2007 Savana/Express
1995-2005 Monte Carlo
1997-1999 Venture
1995-2001 Lumina
1988-2002 Camaro
1995-2005 Cavalier
1982-1991 Corvette
1994-1996 Caprice/Caprice Wagon
1995-1996 Impala SS
2000-2005 Impala
1997-2005 Malibu Classic
1997-2003 Malibu
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Cadillac
1986-1993 Allante
1982-1996 Fleetwood
1985-1996 Fleetwood Brougham
1992-1995 Seville
1992-1995 SLS/STS
1985-1995 Deville
1994-1995 Deville Concours
1988-1995 ElDorado
1994-1995 ElDorado Touring
1999-2007 Escalade
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Saturn
2000 LS/LS1/LS2/LW1/LW2
2001-2002 L100/LW100
2001-2003 L200/LW200
2001-2005 L300/LW300
2004-2005 L-Series
2002-2008 VUE
1996-2002 SL/SL1/SL2
1996-2002 SC1/SC2
1996-2002 SW1/SW2

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 14, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 Toyota Corolla S. Replaced battery this

Look for a lose connection at the crank shaft sensor. This is a signal needed for obtaining tachometer as well as turning on the fuel pump.

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Marvin

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  • Posted on Nov 03, 2008

SOURCE: shuts off while driving. no fuel pressure. pcm fuse blows/ fuel pump relay inserted.

Sounds like the fuel pump is shorted.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 26, 2009

SOURCE: car will not start after winter storage and battery change

open the gas cap and leave it off for a few minutes then put in a can of STP gas treatment with fuel injecter cleaner and add about a half tank of gas and check all the fuses it may be a blown fuse to the fuel pump relay as well

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 25, 2009

SOURCE: Fuel pump problems

you have a shut off button in the trunk find it turn it off and turn it back on

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2001 Cadillac Deville. Fuel pump went out so I bought a new one. One day the car just went dead while driving it. And would not start back it would crank but not start

not true at all the prime pulse is 1 to 3 seconds
and stays off until cranked, only cranking matters
prime only speeds up the start, cranking pressure matters.
and rail pressure for sure. cranking. matters. most.
if car has IMMo you know when the key fails the engine can run for 1 to 10 seconds on some cars, to get you say out of trouble
or get the car off a curb to tow it? yes. of away from a cliff??????
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first is learn to find the IMMO lamp on the dash and see if it is glowing the correct way as they free users guide states
fact #2:
scan the pcm when it fails to start or stalls
the scan tool tells you why, sure can, even shows key bad
try both keys yet, came new with 2 keys new. car.
both IMMO keys
modern cars need scan too to diagnose EFI
if can tell you lots of things like key bad,spark bad. or fuses blow or
well 100s of things.
scan it
and use fuel pressure gauge at the rail.
only if all fuses all good and scans show no clues.!
then check pressure with a real meter.
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Do you need to prime the new fuel pump after installing?

Without knowing the vehicle a fuel injected car all you have to do is turn the key on and off 3 times for 10 seconds each. Carburetor is a bit harder. If the system does not leak cranking it can get it done but dumping a little gas in the carb will cause it to start and pump the manual pump much faster to prime the system. With a leaking manual pump it just takes a lot of cranking.
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Have a 2005 freestar that wont crank unless you prime the throttle body with starting fluid then it runs fine until you shut it off then you have to prime all over again. new fuel pump and new pcm

I guess you mean it cranks good but won't start? Cranking is starter motor cranking the engine. Make sure battery has a full charge and connections all good. Did you use a gage and check proper fuel pressure, key on engine off? You could try cycling the key on and off several times before you crank it, see if it helps? Another thought is to do a voltage drop test on some of the fuel components, fuel pump--fuel injectors. Engine cranking the systems get battery voltage. Engine running the systems get generator voltage, the gen voltage can be several volts higher than battery. Just a thought.
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you should check the battery, if it is all right, you should try to check the starter and ignition.
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I crank my avalanche 2002 about 3 times before starting could be the fuel pump

sounds like the check valve in the pump is letting the fuel drain back try just cycling key a few times before starting this will prime pump and lines. if cranks up this is most likely cause a fuel pressure gauge will confirm
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2002 gmc sierra 5.3 4x2 . problem is starts up and dies. changed fuel filter it started and ran about 1 minute died and wont run. got new fuel pump and dropped tank. sending unit pair has 5 volts the...

You should not see any voltage after the 2-second prime until you actually start cranking the engine. If you don't see power on the grey wire when cranking, try jumpering across the fuel pump relay terminals
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2002 Ford Escape V6 XLT, problem w/ initial start in cold weather

Does the engine crank but just not start? Or... are you cycling the ignition switch without trying to crank the engine? Based on the information you have given, I would first guess that the fuel pump may be going out. I say this because when you first turn the key on the pump primes the engine with pressurized fuel. If the pump is getting old, it may take a few power cycles to get it going. You can test this theory by having somebody listen near the rear of the car while you turn the key on for the first time. The fuel pump make a faint, yet distinctive high pitch noise that can be heard when you turn the key on. Try that first. Next thing you would try is checking the relays for proper function... starting with the fuel pump relay. Good luck.
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How about the fuel pump relay? or possibly the ASD relay. need to make sure you are getting voltage to the fuel pump when the key is on, the pump will run only for a few seconds when you turn the key to start to prime the system. If you dont hear the pump prime, check the aforementioned relays and associated fuses.
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