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Julius Akinola Posted on Feb 18, 2017
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Lock key in ignition

Taking key out after switch off engine is difficult.

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The key itself or the ignition switch may be worn & either need replacement. Try w a backup key first to see if both keys are causing the same problem. If all keys cause the same problem then the switch is NG. Call in a tech for replacement.

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2002 2.2L engin 4 cylinder Pontiac grand am steering wheel don't lock after driving car. in park position and remove the keys. Steering wheel moves freely?? It's it the ignition switch going bad??

The ignition lock includes the steering wheel lock. It's possible that it just needs lubrication, or that the lock part has broken. In either case, taking the covers off the steering column sounds like your next move.
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Ignition Switch Problems

I see so many problems with ignition switches, keys being stuck in the lock, keys no longer turning in the switch and switches not operating correctly. These problems are seen not only on older cars, some models as late as 2006 have been affected.
The most frequent cause of these problems is that drivers have too many keys on the bunch that the ignition key is attached to, including remote controls and often a heavy decorative fob. When driving the vibration of the engine plus the bouncing due to road surfaces places a considerable load on the key in the lock and subsequently on the tumblers and the slots and guides in the keyhole - severe wear taking place rather quickly and consequently the profile of the key and keyhole details are changed until you normal key is no longer recognised by the lock.
If you are forced to change the ignition lock for this reason, you will have the added inconvenience of having different keys for the ignition and the doors.
To prevent this happening, reduce the number of keys on your vehicle key bunch to the least number of keys you need for the operation of the vehicle.
It will mean that you will have to have two separate sets of keys, but this is a small inconveneince compared to not being able to use your vehicle or not being able to get the key out of the lock.
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Ignition

he ignition switch generally has four positions: off, accessories, on, and start. Some cars have two off positions, off and lock; one turns off the car, and the other allows the key to be removed from the ignition. When the key is turned to the accessories position, certain accessories, such as the radio, are powered; however, accessories that use too much battery power, such as window motors, remain off in order to prevent the car's battery from being drained. The accessories position uses the least amount of battery power when the engine is not running, which is why drive-in movie theaters recommend that the car be left in theaccessories mode during the movie.

The on position turns on all of the car's systems, including systems such as the fuel pump, because this is the position the ignition switch remains in while the car's engine is running. The start position is spring loaded so that the ignition switch will not remain there when the key is released. When the key is inserted into the ignition switch lock cylinder and turned to the start position, the starter engages; when the key is released, it returns to the on position, cutting power to the starter. This is because the engine runs at speeds that the starter cannot match, meaning that the starter gear must be retracted once the engine is running on its own.

Either the ignition switch or the lock cylinder may fail in a car, but both circumstances have very different symptoms. When the ignition switch fails, generally the electrical wiring or the plastic housing develops problems. The car may not turn on and/or start when this happens. Also, the spring-loaded start position could malfunction, in which case the starter will not engage unless the key is manually turned back to the on position.

When the lock cylinder malfunctions, however, the operation of the key itself will become problematic. If the tumblers become stripped, the lock cylinder may be able to turn with any key, or you may be able to remove the key when the car is on. If the tumblers begin to shift, the lock cylinder may not turn. Sometimes the key can be wiggled until the lock cylinder turns, but it is important to remember that this is only a temporary fix.

Replacing an ignition switch can be tricky business, particularly in newer cars, because of the anti-theft devices used in cars. Once the ignition switch is separated from the back of the lock cylinder, the car can be started with a screwdriver, making it vital that this switch be difficult to get to. It is important to consult a shop manual before attempting this kind of repair, as the anti-theft devices may require special tools; attempting to remove an ignition switch without the proper tools can render the car inoperable.


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2003 Nisson Altima code P1610 and P1612. Anti theft problem how do I reset without taking to Nisson dealer?

P1610=Lock Mode--1 turn ignition switch OFF 2 turn ignition switch ON with registered key. (Do not start engine.) Wait 5 seconds. 3 Return the key to off position. 4 Repeat steps 2 and 3 twice ( total of tree cycles). 5 Start the engine. Does engine start ?? Yes...System is OK. Now system is escaped from LOCK MODE...if no start...Go to 3
P1612 is a lot of testing.......get back to me....
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The car will turn over but won`t start but if I turn the key on and jump the starter it starts

Sounds like the ignition switch has gone kaput. The ignition switch come in two pieces, an electrical switch and a mechanical switch.

The switch electrical portion can be replaced separatly from the mechanical portion (tumbler that the key engages). It is not a real difficult repair but requires some mechanical knowlege of how the column is assembled.

This can be verified with electrical test equipment prior to buying a new electrical switch.
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Need Help Changing Ignition Lock Cylinder

I have not done a recent GM, but the past procedures was to take the layers off the column.
That starts with the center horn pad, then the steering wheel nut, the wheel.
That can be a pain if you don't have a puller.
There is also a steering lock plate that is a pain, because you need to use a pusher before you can remove a retaining circlip. There is also the directional switch, and ignition retainer.

If you simply have key problems, I suggest taking the door lock out and have a new key made for that. It should be the same as ignition. Easier.
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How difficult is it to replace ignition cylinder lock. Cylinder was ripped out

The ignition switch is usually mounted to the steering column and is operated by a linkage rod.
NOTE On column-mounted ignition switches, don't confuse the switch with the lock cylinder and keys. The ignition switch is not normally visible. On some vehicles, the steering column support has to be removed and the column lowered to find the ignition switch. On others, the switch is accessible under the dash.
f32-17gif.gif The ignition switch is operated by the key switch. Courtesy of Ford Motor Company. To replace the switch:
  • Remove the ignition switch wiring harness.
  • Unbolt it from its position.
  • Bolt the new switch into position.
  • Attach the witing harness.

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I have 1984 Mercedes benz TD .Recently i cann't start the car key doesn't turn in ignition lock houseing

ignition switches are a known issue with this era mercedes. Not too difficult to change the ignition switch. Google is good source for pics, videos and instructions on this. Be aware that the switch is about $400 from the dealer. You could get one without matching key for alot cheaper if you dont care about that. Also, you can get one without the key lock for much cheaper if you are able to remove the key lock from your existing switch.
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How do I replace the Ignition lock?

Hi there, to remove the ignition lock, remove the steering colomn trim, insert the key and turn to position 2, there is a small button under the lock press this and pull the key, this will remove the lock, you will have to switch the tumblers over to the new barrell so that it works with your original key
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