How many belts together with tensioners, pulleys and water pumps I need to replace?

OLD POST BUT HERE WE GO.
3.8L told(good) 3.8 L Essex V6
gen 2 car/
SAME AS ALL CARS, BUT STEP2
GAIN ACCESS TO THE PUMP, MUST BE CONFUSING.

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1. Disconnect the negative battery cable lug, then place a drain pan under the radiator drain ****.
2. Carefully remove the radiator cap, then open the drain **** on the radiator and drain the cooling system.
3. Loosen the four water pump pulley retaining bolts while the accessory drive belts are still tight.

Location of the four water pump pulley retaining bolts-Late

1. Loosen the alternator belt adjuster jack screw to provide enough clearance for the removal of the alternator belt.
2. Using a 1/2 in. breaker bar, rotate the automatic tensioner down and to the left.
3. Remove the power steering/air conditioner belt.
4. Remove the two nuts and bolt retaining the drive belt automatic tensioner to the engine, then remove the tensioner.
5. Disconnect and remove the lower radiator and heater hose from the water pump.
6. Remove the eleven water pump-to-engine retaining bolts, then lift the water pump and pulley up and out of the vehicle.
   Remove the water pump pulley retaining bolts, them remove the pulley from the water pump.

same as ford, same engine, 1pump

You may have a pulley out of alignment or a bearing that is bad on one device or the idler or tensioner pulley.

It could be the belt they need to be changes. The tensioner pulley or idler pulley are usually the problem. If the belt came off I would suspect tensioner pulley. If you replace one replace belt, tensioner and idler pulley.

If the belt is tight, and the tensioner is keeping it tight, my guess would be one of the pulleys is not aligned with the others.

If your car requires dex cool, than that is what you need to use. If not then don't. Different coolant types each have different lubricants for the pump. Have you checked the belt tension? Changed hoses?Made sure pump is receiving water?

A/C Compressor Belt

1. Remove the alternator/power steering and water pump drive belt to gain access to the air conditioning belt.
   

2. Loosen the tensioner pulley locknut, then turn the adjusting screw to raise or lower the tensioner pulley assembly. Remove the belt.
   

To install:

1. Install the belt.
   

2. To adjust the belt, loosen the tensioner pulley nut and adjust the belt tension by tightening the adjusting screw. Tighten the pulley nut to 40 ft. lbs. (54 Nm) after adjustment.
   

3. Install the alternator/power steering and water pump drive belt and adjust.
   

4. Start the engine and check for proper belt alignment and any abnormal noise.
   

Hi.

Here the belt routing for 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2005, whch was sold only with the 2.7 engine mounted:






Fig. Accessory Belt Routing-A/C Compressor (1), Power Steering Pump (2), Tensioner (3), Crankshaft Pulley (4), Water Pump (5), Alternator (6), Idler Pulley (7)-All Engines

Here a different view:



Here also the fan belt routing;



Fig. Fan belt routing-Fan pulley (1), Fan belt (2), Crankshaft pulley (3)-3.0L engine shown

PROCEDURE Removal & Installation


2.7L Engine

1. Loosen the tension adjust and remove the A/C compressor drive belt.
2. Attach a 3 / 8 inch drive ratchet to the automatic belt tensioner.
3. Rotate the belt tensioner counterclockwise to release the belt tension.
4. Remove the accessory drive belt, starting with the water pump pulley.



To install:

1. Position the accessory drive belt around every pulley except the water pump pulley.
2. Rotate the drive belt tensioner clockwise, install the accessory drive belt and release the tensioner.
3. Position the A/C Compressor drive belt over the crankshaft pulley and A/C compressor pulley.
4. Tighten the drive belt tensioner.
5. Ensure the belt is seated properly on all of the pulleys.

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GoeffreyH is not correct. On this engine the water pump is run by a small, single, separate belt which cannot be adjusted by the alternator because it (and the water pump itself) are on the opposite end of the engine from the crank pulley and other accessories, such as alternator, A/C, etc. which are driven by the main serpentine belt. The water pump is driven by a pulley on the end of one camshaft. Your confusion stems from the change from the old system, in which a longer belt was used with a tensioner in the traditional fashion, and the new system on 2004 vans where the tensioner was eliminated and a 'stretch fit' belt was used. Stretch fit belts have a springy component (like a rubber band) and keep their own tension this way by being stretched a bit to fit over the pulleys then holding snug against them. The problem is that some parts books erroneously call for the old belt for vans which need the new one. So the first belt your mechanic got was longer (to fit over the extra tensioner pulley) and static (not stretchy). On these newer vans, you can still see the mounting boss where the tensioner would have gone, it's part of the castings so it's still there. That's why it looks like there's a place for a tensioner but like none was ever there. Both your observations are correct. The only thing you need to do now is make sure your new belt is the right one, that it's a stretch fit belt, so it maintains tension (otherwise the water pump pulley will eventually start to slip and spin too slowly and the van will overheat) and also that it's not TOO tight, which will put you out of another water pump. The correct belt, if it's from NAPA, would be 030250SF.

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Drive Belt Replacement WARNING: IF EQUIPPED, DO NOT ALLOW DRIVE BELT TENSIONER (6B209) TO SNAP BACK AS DAMAGE TO DRIVE BELT TENSIONER OR PERSONAL INJURY COULD RESULT.
NOTE: Minor cracks in the V-grooved portion of the serpentine drive belt (8620) are considered normal and acceptable. If the drive belt has chunks missing from the ribs, the drive belt should be replaced.

NOTE: Conditions requiring drive belt replacement are excessive wear, rib chunk-out, severe glazing, frayed cords or other conditions. Replace any drive belt exhibiting any of these conditions.

NOTE: When installing drive belt on pulley, make sure that all V-grooves make proper contact with pulleys.





Drive Belt, Serpentine—Except SHO
Removal

1. WARNING: USE CAUTION WHEN REMOVING OR INSTALLING DRIVE BELT TO MAKE SURE THAT TOOL DOES NOT SLIP FROM DRIVE BELT TENSIONER OR PERSONAL INJURY AND/OR DAMAGE TO DRIVE BELT TENSIONER AND DRIVE BELT MAY OCCUR.
   Using a 15 mm socket or wrench on bolt attaching drive belt tensioner pulley, rotate drive belt tensioner clockwise on 3.0L (2V) and 3.0L (2V) FF, rotate the drive belt tensioner counter clockwise on 3.0L (4V) to remove drive belt from pulleys. Make sure spring keeper engages into slot.
   
   
   Drive Belt Tensioner—3.0L (4V)
   
   
   
   
   

Installation

1. Install drive belt over all pulleys (except drive belt tensioner).
   

1. Rotate drive belt tensioner as described under the removal procedure and install drive belt over drive belt tensioner pulley. Make sure that all V-grooves make proper contact with pulleys. Make sure spring keeper releases or improper belt tension will occur.
   
   
   Pulley, Routing—Accessory Drive Belt 3.0L (2V)/3.0L (2V) FF Engine
   
   
   
   
   
   Item Part Number Description 1 10300 Generator 2 6C348 Idler Pulley 3 3A674 Power Steering Pump 4 19703 A/C Compressor 5 6312 Crankshaft Pulley 6 6B209 Drive Belt Tensioner 7 8501 Water Pump 8 8620 Drive Belt
   
   Pulley, Routing—Accessory Drive Belt 3.0L (4V)
   
   
   
   
   
   Item Part Number Description 1 3A674 Power Steering Pump 2 8501 Water Pump 3 19703 A/C Compressor 4 8620 Drive Belt 5 6312 Crankshaft Pulley 6 6B209 Drive Belt Tensioner 7 10300 Generator

3.4L SHO Engine
Removal

1. Remove the right front wheel and tire assembly. For additional information, refer to Section 04-04.
   

1. Remove the inner fender splash shield.
   

1. Remove the alternator shield.
   

1. WARNING: USE CAUTION WHEN REMOVING OR INSTALLING DRIVE BELT TO MAKE SURE WRENCH DOES NOT SLIP FROMDRIVE BELT TENSIONER OR POSSIBLE PERSONAL INJURY AND/OR DAMAGE TO DRIVE BELT TENSIONER AND DRIVE BELT MAY OCCUR.
   Using a 3/8 inch ratchet on the lifting lug, rotate drive belt tensioner counterclockwise (upward) and engage spring keeper. Remove drive belt from drive belt tensioner.
   

1. Lower vehicle.
   

1. Remove drive belt.
   

Installation

1. Install drive belt over all pulleys (except drive belt tensioner ).
   

1. Raise vehicle on hoist.
   

1. Rotate drive belt tensioner , as described under Removal procedure and install drive belt over drive belt tensioner pulley. Make sure all V-grooves make proper contact with pulleys. Make sure the spring keeper is released or improper belt tension will occur.
   

1. Install the alternator shield.
   

1. Install the inner fender splash shield.
   

1. Install the wheel and tire assembly. For additional information, refer to Section 04-04.
   
   
   Pulley Routing—Accessory Drive Belt, 3.4L SHO
   
   
   
   
   
   Item Part Number Description 1 3A733 Power Steering Pump Pulley 2 6B217 (RH) Idler Pulley 3 19703 A/C Compressor 4 8620 Drive Belt 5 6312 Crankshaft Pulley 6 6B209 Drive Belt Tensioner 7 10346 Generator 8 6B217 (LH) Idler Pulley 9 6B217 (Center) Idler Pulley

Drive Belt, Water Pump
Removal

1. NOTE: If removal of the water pump drive pulley is required, refer to Section 03-03.
   
   Rotate drive belt tensioner clockwise by hand and remove drive belt from drive belt tensioner .
   

1. Remove drive belt from water pump drive pulley and water pump pulley.
   

Installation

1. Position drive belt onto water pump drive pulley and water pump pulley.
   

1. Rotate drive belt tensioner clockwise by hand and install drive belt over top of drive belt tensioner pulley. Make sure all V-grooves make proper contact with pulleys.
   
   
   Pulley Routing—Water Pump Drive Belt
   
   
   
   
   
   Item Part Number Description 1 6B209 Drive Belt Tensioner 2 6A312 Crankshaft Pulley 3 8501 Water Pump 4 8620 Drive Belt