Question about 2001 Pontiac Aztek

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Can blower motor, cig. lighter, fan cooling motor, door locks all be tied into the blower motor relay faulting out?

Used cig. lighter, all guage's went down. lost all control on the blower control switch panel, drove home unhooked pos.cable on batt. the next morning the 40 ign.3 40 amp fuse in the block under the hood was blown, replaced and the blower motor runs continuously, seemed that the fan cooling motor came on as well and the car had not run. after replacing the fuse the car would not start, did some searching under the dash with no success and tried again the car now starts without the 40 amp ing. j fuse plugged in. but will not start when plugged in. Thanks Stephen for your comments. I have described my progress the last couple days, thru the comments section as I just realized how to update the here. I have found the problem and encourage anyone who is confronted with the problem of a continuously running blower motor and/or random electrical oddities ie: gauges wig out, fuses short frequently, look for a short in the harness above the glove box. I have seen enough incidents documented on this happening seems reasonable there is yet another enginering mishap with the placement of this harness.

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    Neil Hadrich Nov 23, 2015

    as i stated earlier, after discovering and relacing the #28/10ampaccfuse in the inside block, i got a no crank/no start. Pulled that fuse out and started/ran with no problem, obviously without the #47/40amp jfuse in the hood block i have nothing in the way of heat,defraust,etc. this is not acceptable due to safety of course not to mention the 30 degree temp.around here.

  • Neil Hadrich
    Neil Hadrich Nov 23, 2015

    started cking. relays, discovered the #32/25amp fuse in hood block was burned, replaced - no start/no crank at this point. Only one relay appeared to have a problem #52 AC/CLU 4 pin relay was stuck open until i reversed power from pin 86 to 85, contact tripped and clicking was then heard both with power in to 86, and in to 85.

  • Neil Hadrich
    Neil Hadrich Nov 23, 2015

    update 11-23, fyi there was resistance in both 85 and 86 as well in ref. to my last comment.
    I have now ckd. all relays in both fuse boxes as I have yet to find a diagram that is free and complete enough to find any detail at length for the hard wire end of things.
    However I did discover there is no constant hot/feed to the #23 Ign3 relay (pin set) in the main fuse block / passenger side console, the relay cks. good, no power on either 30 or 87 pin slot.

  •  Stephen
    Stephen Nov 23, 2015

    I use repair info from AutoZone's website. If you register (free) you can access their data base which would have some/most of the wiring diagrams for your truck. You may end up having to buy a used shop manual from Ebay to get all of the diagrams.
    The people who answer questions here on Fixya are volunteers and don't usually have access to factory shop manuals.

  • Neil Hadrich
    Neil Hadrich Nov 23, 2015

    Quit snowing so figured I would proceed with another look into the wiring harness issue where I heard a couple items engage when I tugged on it after initial no start result...
    After hearing what sounded very similar to a relay somewhere up tight under the dash in the darkness between the passenger airbag and the glovebox compartment or where it would have been as I pulled it to access the blower and resistor prior. Laying on my back face up on the passenger side floor board looking approx. where the latch for the box would be located I moved the main wire harness and wittnessed a very notable crack followed by a splash of spark that exposed thru closer examination a bundle of melted plastic surrounding more than a few copper strands of wire blended with an unknown number of others within the harness ending my search for the answer to my question " Can blower motor, cig. lighter, fan cooling motor, door locks all be tied into the blower motor relay faulting out?"
    Answer: You know they can... if somehow pinched squeezed smashed rubbed or in some form altered to allow the wires to touch causing a short!!
    I will follow up with info on the repair and results later. Meantime, if your blower motor runs without power in your 2001 Aztek and the proceeding has not helped, I strongly encourage looking in this area for this same problem!!

  •  Stephen
    Stephen Nov 23, 2015

    If you are checking the relay itself, 85 and 86 are usually the terminals for the magnet that closes the connection between 30 and 87. So it should have resistance. One terminal gets power and the other gets ground from the engine computer or another source. Then you have power on 30 or 87 and the fourth terminal goes to the component you are powering. So if you are checking the female terminals, you have two power, one ground, and one to the component.

  • Neil Hadrich
    Neil Hadrich Nov 24, 2015

    thanks for the input, having a bit of difficulty following the whole set up here on fixya, no one sure distinct procedure to get to my question, add or update info in an efficient manne??? not giving up though, seems this could be an excellent source for a whole lot of shade trees as well as the pros!!
    ok, fyi stephen your help is greatly appreciated regardless of what might be voted on.
    I found the problem, it had nothing at all to do with any parts, fuses, relays, connections etc.
    The source of all this wackiness in the 2001 aztek is and has been for some time based on the evident physical destruction of the wire cluster a major damage of the protective coating around more than a couple wires running from the underhood fuseblock.

  • Neil Hadrich
    Neil Hadrich Nov 24, 2015

    glove box, fuseblock access cover and control modules in center console have been removed.

  • Neil Hadrich
    Neil Hadrich Nov 24, 2015

    The silver rounded item is the airbag housing

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Sounds more like a key switch or fuse box problem.
The circuits you mentioned would be on separate fuses but could be connected to the key switch. The relays are grounded by the engine computer to be energized.

Posted on Nov 20, 2015

Testimonial: "thanks for the input, that could certainly be the area of concern, while working thru this i discovered something unusual. moving the wire harness assoc. with these items, cig. ltr., blwr mtr, etc. under the dash I would hear the cooling fan or fans come on and go off, also the door lock on the passenger side would lock and unlock as i pulled and pushed this wire harness, with some force yet not enough to damage or enhance the condition. It was after this that the vehicle started on my next attempt. I have just discovered the # 28 10amp fuse in the center consol is blown. Not sure when this happened. On my way to the 10 amp store now, will post with results after replacing this fuse/ DOUBLE THANKS to everyone that offers any input. If you have ever had an issue of this nature you well know my situation and every word of advice is and will be appreciated!"

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check blower motor regulator for moisture and corrosion on connectors

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I'd say that your blower motor resistor has shorted internaly.

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SOURCE: 1992 bonneville sse w/ac replaced blower motor +

You replaced the blower control module or the blower control panel on the dash? This has automatic temp control right?

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SOURCE: Fan blower started running full speed, ...

THE FAN BLOWER RELAY IN STUCK CLOSE POSITION.YOU HAVE TO REPLACE FAN BLOWER RELAY.

Posted on Jun 07, 2010

Anonymous

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SOURCE: 91 firebird v6 It started up drove it around block let sit for 45

my car is doing the exact same thing. these cars have a tendancy to jump time. the best way to check is to pull ur plugs and turn the motor over by hand till the #1 cylinder(front left side of engine) is up. u tell if its up by putting a screwdriver or something in the hole. then go to ur distributer and see if the rotor tip is on the #1 spot on the cap. if not the timing is off.

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Y need book for fuse box


Fuses are listed here
* = maxi fuse
1*=50A I/P fuse panel
2*=40A blower motor relay
3*= 50A 4 wheel ABS module
4*=20a Main light switch-Instrument cluster
5*=50A Ignition switch, starter relay
6*=20A Transfer case relay
7*= NOT USED
8*=20A Auto Ride Control Switch/on off switch
9*=40A Auto Ride Control relay
10*=30A PCM power relay
mini fuses
1=10A A/C relay
2=20A Aux power point
3= not used
4=15A Fog lamps-Daytime lamps
5=10A Air Bag diagnostic monitor
6=10A Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
7=30A 4WABS module
8=30A PCM relay
9=20A Fuel Pump relay and RAP module
10= 15A Horn relay
11=15A Park Lamp relay-Main Light Switch
12=30A Main light switch--Multi Function switch
13=15A Heated O2 sensors, EGR Vacuum Regulator, EVR solenoid,Camshaft position (CMP) Sensor,
Cannister Vent Solenoid, A4LD Auto Transmission
14=30A Generator-Voltage regulator
Interior fuse panel (mini fuses)
1=7.5A Power mirror switch
2=7.5A Blower motor relay,PAD module,Air Bag diagnostic monitor
3=7.5A Trailer tow connector
4=10A Left headlamp
5=10A Data link connector (DLC)
6=7.5A Air bag diagnostic monitor, Blower motor relay, Passive deactivation Module (PAD)
7=7.5A Trailer Tow connector
8=10A Right headlamp, Daytime running lamps (DRL) module, Foglight relay
9=7.5A Stop Lamp switch
10= 7.5A Speed control-amplifier assembly,Brake pressure switch, Generic electronoc Module (GEM)
Shift lock actuator, Blend door actuator, Main light switch, RABS resistor, A/C heater assembly
Flasher
11= 7.5A Instrument cluster, Main light switch, RABS resistor
12= 10A Power window relay, Washer pump relay
13= 20A Stop lamp switch, Brake pressure switch
14= 20A Rear Anti Lock Brake system (RABS) module
**10A 4WABS module**
15=7.5A Instrument cluster
16= 30A Windshield wiper Motor, Wiper Hi-lo relay, wiper run/park relay
17=7.5A Cig lighter
18=15A Drivers unlock relay-All unlock relay
19=25A PCM power diode
20=7.5A RAP module GEM module, Radio
21=15A Flasher (hazard)
22=20A Aux power socket
23=15A Turn signals
24===not used
25= 7.5A GEM module, Instrument cluster
26= 10A Battery saver relay, Electronic Shift relay, Interior lamp relay
Power window relay,Electronic shift control module, transmission control
27=15A Switch,DRL, Backup lamp switch, DTR sensor,Instrument illumination dimming control module
Dome/map lamp, GEM,electronic shift,Interior lights,Glove box lamp and switch
28=7.5A GEM module-Radio
29= 15A Radio
30=15A Park lamps, trailer Tow relay
31===not used
32=10A rear blower
33=15A Headlamps, DRL module, Instrument cluster
34=7.5A Rear integrated control panel, CD
35=10A RABS test connector
36=7.5A CD, rear integrated control panel, memory seat,

i copied this off another post hope this helps

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Interior heating fans/ blowers not working


You have a blown fuse, check them all including the under hood or trunk fuse center.

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Fuses panel described in English


Hope this helps your out. I know the diagram and locator is a bit blurry but hopefully it gets what you need.
Drivers kick panel:
Front wiper 20A - Front wiper system Cigar 15A- Cigarette lighter Audio 10A- Audio, remote control mirror Air Bag 10A -Air bag diagnostics Stop lights- 15A -Rear brake light, high mounted stop light ECU B+ 10A - Shift lock actuator, transaxle controle module, radio, engine control module Room 10A - Interior light, clock, ignition key reminder, rear cargo area light switch ABS 10A- Anti lock brake system control unit ECU IG1 10A - Transaxle control module, shift lock actuator, ABS control unit, DRL unit Meter 10A - Instrument panel, back-up switch, electronics time control module, inhibit switch Turn signal 10A- Hazard switch ,front and rear turn lights, turn indicator IGN1 20A - Ignition switch ABS 30A- ABS pump motor TNS 30A- Tail light, license plate light COOL/FAN 30A- Cooling fan Cond/Fan 20A- A/C condenser fan Starter 15A- Start signal , Fuel pump Blower 25A- Blower Motor SR/ACC 10A - Ignition switch Hazard 15A - Hazard and turn signal light D/Lock 25A- Door locks ABS 30A - Anti lock brake system control P/W RH 20A- Power window motor right hand P/W LH 20A- Power window motor left hand IGN2 25A- Ignition Switch
Engine compartment :
Head 25A- headlights IG 2 30A- Ignition switch IG coil 15A -Ignition coil, condenser,generator IC regulator, diagnostic connector. O2 down 10A- Rear O2 sensor O2 up 10A- Front O2 sensor Fuel pump 10A -Fuel pump unit Injector 10A -Fuel injector ,camshaft positioning sensor, purge solenoid valve, EVAP, IAC actuator, Mass Airflow sensor, EGR stepper motor. fuel pump relay coil, vehicle speed sensor. A/Con 10A - A/C compressor controls, cooling fan BTN 30A- Brake light , high mounted stop light. Tail light LH 10A- License plate light, tail light , rear combo light, instrument panel illumination Tail light RH 10A-License plate light, tail light , rear combo light, instrument panel illumination Head low 15A- Headlight Head Hi 15A-Headlight Horn 15A- Horn jlmacman.png jlmacman_0.png

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1. pwr antenna 7.5 amp 2. high mount stop lamp 7.5amp 3. lights 15 amp 4. left headlight 10 amps 5. data link connector 10 amps 6. airbag, blower motor relay 7.5 amps 7. lamp dimmer 7.5 amps 8. RH headlight, daytime running lts, fogs 10amps 9. autolamps, memory seat 10amps 10. blend door ( heater), shift lock actuator, cruise control, brake press limit, console, integrated contol panel, rear blower relay 7.5amp 11. radio, dimmer relay, inst cluster, autolamps 2 7.5 amp 12. liftgate wiper washer, front washer relay 10amps 13. brake on off switch 15 amps 14. antilock brakes 10amps 15. airbag diagnostic 7.5 amps 16. wiper main 30amps 17. cig lighter 25 amps 18. heater-a/c eatc module 15 amps 19. radio noise cap, ign coil, PCM power diode 25 amps 20. radio, powr ant 7.5 amps 21. turn /hazards 15 amps 22. turn hazards 10 amps 23. rear wiper relay, 10 amps 24. anti theft 10 amps 25. cluster 7.5 amps 26. rear window defrost, overdrive trans, backup lamps 10 amps 27. interior lighting 10 amps 28. GEM, mem seat 2 , 7.5 amp 29. radio CD changer 10amps 30. not used 31. rear blower relay, RH heated mirror, 7.5 amp 32. heated rear window switch RH heated mirror 7.5 amp 33. DRL module, RH LH daytime running lamp 15 amp 34. power antenna module, remote chassis unit 7.5 35. not used 36. not used

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Abs fuse


Fuses are listed here

* = maxi fuse

1*=50A I/P fuse panel
2*=40A blower motor relay
3*= 50A 4 wheel ABS module
4*=20a Main light switch-Instrument cluster
5*=50A Ignition switch, starter relay

6*=20A Transfer case relay
7*= NOT USED
8*=20A Auto Ride Control Switch/on off switch
9*=40A Auto Ride Control relay
10*=30A PCM power relay

mini fuses
1=10A A/C relay
2=20A Aux power point
3= not used
4=15A Fog lamps-Daytime lamps
5=10A Air Bag diagnostic monitor
6=10A Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
7=30A 4WABS module
8=30A PCM relay
9=20A Fuel Pump2.gif relay and RAP module
10= 15A Horn relay
11=15A Park Lamp relay-Main Light Switch
12=30A Main light switch--Multi Function switch
13=15A Heated O2 sensors, EGR Vacuum Regulator, EVR solenoid,Camshaft position (CMP) Sensor,
Cannister Vent Solenoid, A4LD Auto Transmission
14=30A Generator-Voltage regulator


Interior fuse panel (mini fuses)

1=7.5A Power mirror switch
2=7.5A Blower motor relay,PAD module,Air Bag diagnostic monitor
3=7.5A Trailer tow connector
4=10A Left headlamp
5=10A Data link connector (DLC)
6=7.5A Air bag diagnostic monitor, Blower motor relay, Passive deactivation Module (PAD)
7=7.5A Trailer Tow connector
8=10A Right headlamp, Daytime running lamps (DRL) module, Foglight relay
9=7.5A Stop Lamp switch
10= 7.5A Speed control-amplifier assembly,Brake pressure switch, Generic electronoc Module (GEM)
Shift lock actuator, Blend door actuator, Main light switch, RABS resistor, A/C heater assembly
Flasher
11= 7.5A Instrument cluster, Main light switch, RABS resistor
12= 10A Power window relay, Washer pump relay
13= 20A Stop lamp switch, Brake pressure switch
14= 20A Rear Anti Lock Brake system (RABS) module
**10A 4WABS module**

15=7.5A Instrument cluster
16= 30A Windshield wiper Motor, Wiper Hi-lo relay, wiper run/park relay
17=7.5A Cig lighter
18=15A Drivers unlock relay-All unlock relay
19=25A PCM power diode
20=7.5A RAP module GEM module, Radio
21=15A Flasher (hazard)
22=20A Aux power socket
23=15A Turn signals
24===not used
25= 7.5A GEM module, Instrument cluster
26= 10A Battery saver relay, Electronic Shift relay, Interior lamp relay
Power window relay,Electronic shift control module, transmission control
27=15A Switch,DRL, Backup lamp switch, DTR sensor,Instrument illumination dimming control module
Dome/map lamp, GEM,electronic shift,Interior lights,Glove box lamp and switch
28=7.5A GEM module-Radio
29= 15A Radio
30=15A Park lamps, trailer Tow relay
31===not used
32=10A rear blower
33=15A Headlamps, DRL module, Instrument cluster
34=7.5A Rear integrated control panel, CD
35=10A RABS test connector
36=7.5A CD, rear integrated control panel, memory seat, Message center Attached images fuse%20box001.jpg?imgmax=800 __________________

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FUSE BOX DETAILS


left to right...
1. empty
2. e flashers
3.horn, brake lights
4.clock, trunk light, inside light, radio
5. rad. cooling fan relay (AC only)
6. right side running lights
7. left side running lights
8. right high beam and indicator
9. left high beam and indicator
10. right low beam
11. left low beam
12. reverse,turn signal and inst panel
13. main and transfer fuel pumps, auxiliary air reg., ox sensor heater
14. license plate and glove box light
15. wipers
16. rear defogger
17. heater blower (no AC)
18. cig lighter
19. rad cooling fan (no AC)
20. Heater blower (AC)
21. rad cooling fan (AC only)
22. empty
23. Ox sensor, idle stabilizer,seat belt warning relay, (Digifant only, control unit, idle boost control, idle boost valve)
24. inst panel lights, heater control lights
25. reading lamps
26. empty
27. empty
28. empty

Hope this helps...;-)

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Cooling fan


Yes you need to unplug the heater and use the heater plug to apply 12v.you can get your 12v from the accessory or cig lighter plug.Do you have an old appliance that you plug into the socket/if so cut appliance off and check wich is positive wire.Make sure to check the blower motor as well,no good blowing it up if its still ok.

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1989 Mercury Tracer Sta. Wgn.


your owner manaul has it. your fuse cover should have chart too.

here is 96 tracer. You also have main fuses under hood.

INTERIOR FUSE JUNCTION PANEL REFERENCE CHART Fuse Fuse Rating Color Protected Components (REAR WIPER) 10A Red Rear wiper and washer motors, heater and A/C relays, daytime running lamps control (Canada), climate control assembly panel illumination HAZARD 15A Blue Front and rear turn signal lamps, turn signal indicator lamp, indicator flasher ROOM 10A (1.9L)
15A (1.8L) Red
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circuit breaker — A/C blower motor HO2S
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20A (1.8L) Red
Yellow Heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) CIGAR
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1995 explorer heater/ac blower motor


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