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Just put in a new throttle body in my Pontic g6 2007 and the idles is too high and not going to normal wait 15mins to relean nothing it's still high when shift gears it jumps and then the idle goes down but I turn it off then turn on idle back high and not going down

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Two possibilities spring to mind; either the new throttle body is faulty or the engine management needs to be told there is a new part fitted. This increasingly applies with self-learning systems; the default values should be restored with the correct diagnostic equipment.

Other possibilities are; there was more faults present than just the throttle body or somehow the process of replacing the unit has created another fault.

If a basic code reader has been used to diagnose the faulty throttle body without that diagnosis being verified with more sophisticated equipment it could easily have been a misleading diagnosis.

A further possibility could be the new throttle body is incorrect, even though it might appear identical. Precise identification and exact part numbers are everything with throttle bodies.

I hope this helps.

  • Chereta Jan 15, 2015

    Thanks this the second one I put in this car and keep doing the same thing. I may just be something else too cause before this I had to replace the cams two small little part now this .

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Why did you replace the throttle body to begin with? These are just plug and play. No relearn to them. You may have to erase the codes.

  • Chereta Jan 15, 2015

    Cause my check engine light came on and my car would stop and then come back on . So they check the car and the full body throttle code came up and said it needed to be replaced . Now when place the new one in the idle won't go down way to high .

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