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How do you repair a 4wal anti lock system that causes a weak pedal after start with a strong pedal before starting.

I bled all 4 wheels,checked the booster and master cylinder.

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Does the brake booster hold vacuum after several hours of the engine not running? You should have 2 to 3 pumps of the brake pedal with the engine not running until the pedal is hard. Worn pads or sticky calipers can also cause the condition.

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SOURCE: 89 c1500, full pedal on brakes until started then

adjust your rear shoes up so that the rear drums just turn, with them ajusted to a low setting the brake pedal will be low .
also when you start your engine it is noral for the pedal to drop because of the boster ! [ but not to the floor ]
Bruce Pike

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ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEMS General Information Fig. 1: RWAL brake system diagram
Fig. 2:4WAL Component locations — except 1996 models
p>Fig. 3: 4WAL Component locations — 1996 models Fig. 4: Three sensor 4WAL brake system diagram — Except 1996 models
Fig. 5: Four sensor 4WAL brake system diagram — Except 1996 models
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