Won't start without jump
Another possibility is the starter itself is bad, requiring a higher amperage to turn over. A starter 'draw test' will give you the answer to a bad starter.
true, but the starter would have to be shorted, this car uses about 100amps. the test is easy. and why would the jump start and not his, the jumped car has 500CCA just like his, so maybe his is not 500CC anymore. or simply not charged, may be its a battery drain issue, The tests are all easy, ( for) bad battery, bad charging system., phantom drains, and bad starter. where do you want to start. if lazy like me, put in a known good charged battery, start now> ? ok, yes it does, so your battery was bad or ONLY discharged. Test the battery next, H3LL first.?
what amazes me is folks with no garage charger, if you own buy one car, get a charger or have to take cab every time you leave the head lights on.. Hell, when i was young , had that and would make it to work and park on a hill, then gavity start my car and drive home every day. until i could fix it right. that was back in 1965. and can still do that today. my cars are all M/T i can push start them all.
edit buy = but. ( use volt meter, if the reseted battery is not 12.6v (not in siberia) then it is not charged. so charge, it, if it dont make 12.6v its a end of life battery. then start the car the voltage must be 13.3 to 15v, if not the charge system is dead, and last if the voltage falls over night, its PHANTOM drain. if you have a good battery and starter is slow, check current (a $50 tool) your call.
reseted = rested, sorry.
every way but sunday there.
even the live starter, current plot for 1.6L. beat that.?
I agree if you want a quick try at something in this situation, throw in a battery; however testing the starting/charging system would be the best start to isolate the problem. And yes, I too recall the days of an MT trans and hill starting it......LOL. A quickie test is 1.start engine, 2. remove negative cable, if engine stays running-charging system ok - replace battery. Done deal.
Remember the old powerglide trannys that had rear pumps, you could push start an automatic - wish they still had that incorporated in - it would save alot of people a tow bill sometimes.
I wasnt trying to get off track here.......But the answer between both of us should be an answer for Denis.
yes the rear pump days, had one on 64 Pontiac, the battery is bad or us discharged, test the charge system first, with a loaned good battery, 13.3 to 15vdc is a good charge system, does the battery discharge over night that is called phantom drain, and ammeter and 5 min, work, omg , its got Drain, all this is easy, with a $10 dmm meter. super easy. but why not charge your battery and see if works ok ,first, saving $125 for a new battery, make $en$se?
bad battery? bad charge system or you have drain, pick one, or ask how to do each test,
or go to walmart and the kid there has the brain box that tell him what is wrong, (zero training,zero knowledge of laws of electrics) just a expensive test box. that too, works.
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3 simple tests, and answer is now known.
ask how.
you you have 2 choices, test, or guess.
one is cheap and other is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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