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Posted on May 23, 2009

No power at the new pump, cranks ,no spark,fuses and relays are good and the odometer says no bus with key on engine off it has coil packs and is multi point injection

Installed new fuel pump theres no power to it and theres no spark, it cranks over all the fuses and relays are good and have power to them the odometer says no bus where the milage is with key on engine off

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Did you plug the connector in when you installed the new pump?

  • Anonymous May 23, 2009

    why was this marked inappropriate? It was a serious question. I cant tell you how many times I have seen someone leave the connector unplugged. Sorry if you took that the wrong way

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OK, SO ENGINE IS DEAD, CRANKS BUT IS DEAD
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