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1996 Oldsmobile LSS. Went to autozone and got code PO133. 'Fuel system running rich or lean- check other aacodes first.' and 'Oxygen sensor defective'; The guy said it probably isn't the oxygen sensor; as it's been stalling recently and making a weird noise when it's turned on.

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Code P0133 is : o2 sensor circuit slow response (bank 1 sensor 1)
meaning;;;one heater on o2 sensor is not heating fast enough or no heat.
look for o2 sensor heater fuse first
and connector wiring for rust
if ok change o2 sensor

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 26, 2008

SOURCE: I have a 1999 oldsmobile

fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail is probably it or the egr valve is stuck open allowing burnt fuel to flood the intake, im leaning towards the fuel pressure regulator because the o2sensor is probably reading rich or if its reading lean then i would choose the egr valve . good luck

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 01, 2008

SOURCE: 1998 olds intrigue trouble code p0171

I have a dianogstic machine and the code you were given indicates that the system is too lean. (Bank 1) Were you go from here i'm not too sure. Steve

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 02, 2009

SOURCE: my 83 cutlass supreme check engine light on

sounds like could be a carb providing an excessive amount of fuel any signs of black smoke from exhaust ), overdue need of spark plugs, or if everything proves ok, a faulty ox sensor

daves944

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  • Posted on May 16, 2009

SOURCE: Where is Bank 1 Sensor 1 on an 2003 Oldsmobile Sillohuette?

"Bank one" is the bank of cylinders that starts with the #1 cylinder. In this case this will be the bank of three cylinders that is closest to the firewall. Sensor #1 refers to the O2 sensor that is between the engine and the catalytic converter. So the Bank 1, sensor 1, will be the O2 sensor that is mounted in the rear exhaust manifold or tubing just before the cat.

honeymokey

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  • Posted on Mar 11, 2010

SOURCE: Oldsmobile Delta 88, Idles High on Cold start with DTCs

Sounds like a vacumn leak. Gasket under intake plenum may be leaking. Be sure the pcv valve has the o-ring around it in the correct place also as it will set a code.

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DTC PARAMETERS
DTC P0133 will set if the average response time of the LEAN to RICH switches is greater than 125 ms or the average response time of the RICH to LEAN switches is greater than 156 ms for 100 seconds when:
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DTC P0133 diagnostic runs continuously once the once the above conditions have been met.

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Possible causes of DTC P0133:
^ An intermittent connection or corrosion in the O2S-1 harness connector can set this DTC. Use Scan tool to monitor O2S-1 voltage with engine running at normal operating temperature while wiggling the signal and ground wire. Make sure the sensor is tight.
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Power loss light: Off
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Bad oxygen sensor - Replace the sensor which is located on the turbo housing near the down pipe (for turbo) or on the down pipe near the exhaust manifold.

Bad connection or wiring - Check the wiring and connections between the sensor and the logic module (or SMEC). Clean and regrease any corroded connectors with dielectric grease and repair any shorts. Look for melted wire insulation near the exhaust manifold. A shorted connection to ground or any positive source will cause this fault code.

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Power loss light: Off
Limp-in mode: Engine allowed to run rich, but prevented from running lean

Possible Causes
Bad oxygen sensor - Replace the sensor which is located on the turbo housing near the down pipe (for turbo) or on the down pipe near the exhaust manifold.

Bad connection or wiring - Check the wiring and connections between the sensor and the logic module (or SMEC). Clean and regrease any corroded connectors with dielectric grease and repair any shorts. Look for melted wire insulation near the exhaust manifold. A shorted connection to ground or any positive source will cause this fault code.

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