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Need to find the horn relay location on my 1998 Winnebago Adventurer with Ford F53 chassis

R&R steering wheel and horn contact. Ohm check horn pad switch and horn contact. Both r OK. Ohm checked the 3 wire harness that runs down the steering column. All 3 wires r OK. Tested both horns directly with 12v. Both r OK. Disconnected 8 pin connector above horns to main harness. Tested with 12v. Wire is good to both horns. Need to find the horn relay to do further testing. Cannot locate in my chassis manual or on Winnebago's online wiring diagrams.

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    Stephen Jul 28, 2013

    Definately going to be a Winnie thing since it is a class A rig. I don't have access to factory RV manuals. You might do an internet search for Adventurer disscussion groups or RV clubs. Somebody may have a book you can borrow.

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Try to find the horn and use a test light to try to ground out one or the other contacts. The horn should be energized at all times, as long as the battery is charged.

The horn should sound if you ground out one or the other terminal with a test light. If not, then the horn is bad.

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REMOVAL & INSTALLATION

Without Air Bag
See Figures 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8
Disconnect the battery ground cable before removing the steering wheel. When installing a steering wheel, always make sure that the turn signal lever is in the neutral position.

  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. If your vehicle is equipped with controls for the radio on the steering wheel proceed as follows:




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Fig. Fig. 1: Pry out the control button assembly with a thin-bladed tool along the top of the edge, being careful not to damage the control assembly

  1. Pry out the control button assembly with a thin bladed tool along the top of the edge of the assembly.
  2. Disconnect the steering wheel control.

  1. On vehicles without the radio controls on the steering pad, take a thin-bladed tool and pry the pad off the steering wheel. On wheels with a center cap, pull off the cap.




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Fig. Fig. 2: Common steering wheel pad types

  1. After lifting the trim off, pry the horn wires from the back of the pad. On some models gently push down on the horn lead and turn left, the wire and spring will then come out of the canceling cam tower.




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Fig. Fig. 3: Carefully pry the lead wire for the horn off of the horn pad

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STEERING Steering Wheel REMOVAL & INSTALLATION Without Air Bag EXCEPT F-SUPER DUTY STRIPPED CHASSIS MODELS AND MOTOR HOME CHASSIS MODELS Fig. 1: Remove the screws from behind the wheel - F-150 model without air bag 88288p12.jpg
Fig. 2: Pull away the cover with the wiring still connected 88288p13.jpg
Fig. 3: Disconnect the wiring at the steering wheel 88288p14.jpg
Fig. 4: Matchmark the steering wheel 88288p15.jpg
Fig. 5: Remove the center nut from the steering wheel 88288p16.jpg
Fig. 6: Use a steering wheel puller to remove the wheel 88288p17.jpg
Fig. 7: Remove the steering wheel from the shaft 88288p18.jpg
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  4. Remove the horn switch assembly.
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A fuse always blows for a reason. The reason your fuse must have blown was because of a short to ground in the horn switch. That means the power side of the horn switch is currently touching ground or metal or that the switch is bad on the inside. The more remote possiblity is that you have a short somewhere in the wiring harness. It is always typical for a component to go bad before a harness.

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Testing and Inspection Notes WARNING: ON VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AIR-BAGS, REFER TO AIRBAGS AND SEAT BELTS/AIRBAGS BEFORE ATTEMPTING STEERING WHEEL, STEERING COLUMN, OR INSTRUMENT PANEL COMPONENT DIAGNOSIS OR SERVICE. FAILURE TO TAKE THE PROPER PRECAUTIONS COULD RESULT IN ACCIDENTAL AIRBAG DEPLOYMENT AND POSSIBLE PERSONAL INJURY.

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