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Anonymous Posted on Jul 10, 2013

Erratic idle audi

OK I HAVE A 98 AUDI A4 1.8T MANUAL THE ROBLEM IS THE ALTERNATOR WIRE GOING TO THE IGNITION SWITCH FRIED I REPLACED THE WHOLE WIRE CAR STARTED UP AND IDLED FINE. TOOK IT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT WAS MISSING A LITTLE AND LITTLE HESITATION WHEN PUSHING ON THE GAS. SO DECIDED TO GO TO THE GAS STAION 2 MILES AWAY WAS OK FILLED UP WITH GAS IT STARTED TO IDLE ERRATICALLY AND WOULD STALL IF U LET OUT CLUTCH AROUND 2000 RPM YOU WOULD HAVE TO REV IT UP TO 3 SO IT WONT STALL. GOING DOWN THE ROAD I HAD TO KEEP IT IN SECOND GEAR GOING 40 IN 4000 RPM RANGE IF NOT IT WOULD BOG DOWN GOT IT TO MY HOUSE AND NOW WILL START BUT IDLE ERRATICALLY AND ONLY AROUUND 400 500 RPM FLUCATIING AND STALLS EVEN WHEN YOU GIVE GAS. I REPLACED SPARK PLUGS I KNOW ITS GETTING GAS I SMELL IT II THINK ITS JUST NOW GETTING SPARK. PLEASE HELP THANK YOUP

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See the diagram attached and proceed and fix it. God bless you
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  • Posted on Mar 11, 2009

SOURCE: car idles low, stalls after start

Common issue at the shop (i'm a ford technician), here is what I do to correct it.
Here is the most common cause of surges and stalls at stops and low erratic idle speed and rough idle, it is the idle speed control air-bypass valve and throttle valve (IAC for short), they get full of gunk over the miles and cause idle issues (stalls, low idle) like yours, Get a can of intake cleaner from any local parts store, not carb spray, intake cleaner, it is made by a company called CRC, remove the air intake hose to the engine, hold the idle high so the engine won't stall, then spray the can of cleaner into the intake while keeping the engine running, use at least 1/2 the can, shut down the engine and disconnect the battery for 5 minutes, then restart and complete a number of mixed driving cycles, town, freeway, stop and go etc., after a few days the problem will go away as the system will relearn to the clean intake.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 18, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 GMC Yukon, erratic idle(hi-low) when cold. 125K miles.

i now for a fact that it is the egr valve . carbon balls in side you have to take it of and clean them out

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 28, 2009

SOURCE: idle problem

Try to disconnect the Air Flow Meter. It is the first plug just before the air filter/air intake box. If this improves your situation you will need to source a new or aftermarket Air Flow Meter.

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  • Posted on May 29, 2009

SOURCE: idle problem

check the airflow meter it may be stuck and make sure the electrical connection to it is not loose and also check the hose leading to it are not loose or cracked they tend to crack at the bottom where you cannot see it unless you remove it and check

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  • Posted on Jun 15, 2010

SOURCE: 1991 Chevy Caprice, V8 5.0L, throttle body

tune up is likely what you need from description

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Check the Idle Control System

Idle speed is controlled by the Idle Air Control Valve (IACV). The IACV changes the amount of air being bypassed to the intake manifold, in response to electric current controlled by the ECM. When the IACV is activated, the valve opens to maintain proper idle speed.

Symptom and Subsystems to Check:

1. Difficult to start engine, when cold--check Fast Idle Thermo Valve.

2. Fast idle out of spec, when cold:
a. Check Fast Idle Thermo Valve.
b. Check IACV.
c. Check idle adjusting screw (see Section C).

3. Rough idle:
a. Check hoses and connections.
b. Check IACV.

4. RPM too high, when warm:
a. Check IACV.
b. Check Fast Idle Thermo Valve.
c. Check hoses and connections, check Power Steering Pressure Switch Signal, and check idle adjusting screw.

5. RPM too low, when warm:
a. Idle speed is below specified rpm, with no load--check IACV and idle adjusting screw.
b. Idle speed doesn't increase after initial start up--check IACV.
c. Idle speed drops in gear (automatic transmission)--check automatic transaxle gear position switch signal.
d. Idle speed drops when AC is on--check air conditioning signal and IACV.
e. Idle speed drops when steering wheel is turned--check power steering pressure switch signal and IACV.
f. Idle speed fluctuates with electrical load--check hoses and connections, IACV, and Alternator FR Signal.

6. Frequent stalling, while warming up--check IACV and idle adjusting screw.

7. Frequent stalling, after warming up--check idle adjusting screw and IACV.

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. Check Alternator FR Signal. Have alternator inspected, if idle speed fluctuates with electrical load. The FR signal communicates to the ECM how "hard" the alternator is working to meet the electrical demands of the car, including the battery and any loads which aren't monitored by the ELD. This square-wave signal varies in pulse width, according to the load on the alternator. The ECM places, approximately, 5 reference volts on the wire. The voltage regulator will drop this signal to approximately 1.2 volts, in proportion to alternator load. The ECM compares the electrical load (ELD) signal with the FR (Charging Rate) signal from the alternator and uses that information to set the idle speed and turn the alternator on and off. This helps fuel economy.

. Clean main ECM ground on thermostat housing.

. Reset ECM, by removing the 7.5 amp Back Up Fuse, in the under-hood fuse box, for 10 seconds.

. Replace PCV Valve, cleaning hose with brake cleaner spray.

. Substitute a known-good ECM. If symptom goes away, replace original ECM.

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Various inputs to the ECM are TDC/CKP/CYP Sensor, MAP Sensor, ECT Sensor, IAT Sensor, TP Sensor, HO2S, VSS, BARO Sensor, EGR Valve Lift Sensor, Starter Signal, Alternator FR Signal, Air Conditioning Signal, Automatic Transmission Shift Position Signal, Battery Voltage (Ignition 1) Brake Switch Signal, PSP Switch Signal, ELD, and VTEC Pressure Switch.

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Outputs from the ECM control Fuel Injectors, PGM-FI Main Relay (Fuel Pump), MIL (Check Engine Light), Idle Air Control (IAC) Valve, A/C Compressor Clutch Relay, Ignition Control Module (ICM), EVAP Purge Control Solenoid Valve, HO2S Heater, EGR Control Solenoid Valve, Alternator, Lock-up Solenoid Valve A/B (A/T), VTEC Solenoid Valve, and Interlock Control Unit.

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