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Anonymous Posted on Dec 23, 2008

Heater blend door is stuck

Do i need to remove the intire dash or is it behind the instyrument panel and vent duct

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Have done this job a few times at the ford dealer, and yes the entire dash must come out.

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Control System Outputs
The air management doors are controlled by vacuum control motors (18A318) and an A/C electronic door actuator motor (19E616). The air inlet and distribution doors are controlled by vacuum control motors. The temperature blend door is controlled by the A/C electronic door actuator motor.
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Air Management Doors
The air management doors are controlled by vacuum control motors (18A318) and an A/C electronic door actuator motor (19E616). The air inlet and distribution doors are controlled by a vacuum control motor. The temperature blend door is controlled by the A/C electronic door actuator motor.
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Section 412-04: Control Components - Climate Control 1997 F-150, F-250 Workshop Manual
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION A/C Electronic Actuator
Removal
  1. Remove the floor duct panel.
    • Remove the two plastic push pins (one each side) and release the expander clip.
  1. Remove the RH instrument panel brace.
    1. Remove the lower nut.
    1. Remove the upper bolt.
    1. Remove the brace.
  1. Remove the LH instrument panel lower nut and position brace out of the way.
  1. Disconnect the vacuum harness from the vacuum actuator.
  1. Remove the floor duct.
    1. Remove the two screws (one each side).
    1. Remove the floor duct.
  1. Remove the panel/floor door vacuum control motor.
    1. Disconnect the vacuum line connector.
    1. Remove the two panel/floor door vacuum control motor screws.
    1. Slide the rod out of the door and remove the panel/floor door vacuum control motor.
  1. Remove the electronic actuator.
    1. Disconnect the electrical connector.
    1. Remove the three screws.
    1. Pull down to release the actuator shaft and remove the electronic actuator.
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1. Disconnect battery ground cable, then drain cooling system. See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust\Cooling System\Service and Repair

2. Disconnect heater hoses from heater core. Plug heater hoses and core fittings to prevent coolant spillage.


3. Remove bolt located below windshield wiper motor, attaching left end of plenum to dash panel.


4. Remove nut attaching upper left corner of evaporator or heater case to dash panel.
5. Disconnect vacuum control system supply hose from vacuum source, then push grommet and hose into passenger compartment.

6. Remove all instrument panel retaining screws and pull instrument panel back as far as possible without disconnecting any wire harnesses.
7. Loosen right door sill plate and remove side cowl trim panel.

8. Disengage temperature control cable housing from bracket on top of plenum. Disconnect cable from temperature blend door crank arm.

9. On models w/Automatic Temperature Control (ATC) , remove cross body brace and disconnect wiring harness from temperature blend door actuator and disconnect ATC sensor tube from evaporator case connector.
10. Disconnect vacuum harness at vacuum connector near floor air distribution duct.

11. Disconnect white vacuum hose from outside recirculating air door vacuum motor.
12. Remove two hush panels.

13. Remove one plastic push fastener retaining floor air distribution duct to left end of plenum. Remove left screw and loosen right screw on rear face of plenum. Remove floor air distribution duct.

14. Remove two screws from rear side of floor air distribution duct to plenum. To remove right screw, it may be necessary to remove the two screws attaching lower panel door vacuum motor to mounting bracket.

15. Remove push fastener attaching floor air distribution duct to left end of plenum, then remove floor air distribution duct.
16. Remove two nuts located along lower flange of plenum.
17. Carefully move plenum rearward, so that heater core tubes and plenum case upper stud clear openings in dash panel, then remove plenum from vehicle by rotating upper portion of the plenum forward, down and out from under instrument panel. It may be necessary to carefully pull lower edge of instrument panel rearward while plenum is being removed from behind instrument panel.
18. Remove retaining screws from heater core cover, then the cover from plenum assembly.

19. Remove retaining screw from heater core inlet and outlet tube bracket.


Heater core removal and installation diagram.




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20. Pull heater core and seal assembly from plenum assembly.
21. Reverse procedure to install.
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  1. Disconnect battery ground cable.
  1. Disconnect the heater hoses from the heater core tubes. Plug the ends of the heater hoses to prevent coolant loss.
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  1. Remove three nuts located below the windshield wiper motor retaining the LH end of the plenum to the dash panel (Fig. 15).


FIG. 15 Plenum and Air Inlet Duct Removal


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  1. Remove LH and RH lower instrument panel insulators.
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  1. Disconnect the vacuum jumper harness at the multiple vacuum connector near the floor air distribution duct.
  1. Disconnect the white vacuum hose from the outside-recirculating door vacuum motor.
  1. Remove two hush panels.
  1. Remove one plastic push fastener retaining the floor air distribution duct to the LH end of the plenum. Remove LH screw and loosen RH screw on the rear face of the plenum (Fig. 14), and remove the floor air distribution duct.
  1. Remove two nuts from the two studs along the lower flange of the plenum.
  1. Carefully move plenum rearward to allow heater core tubes and the stud at the top of the plenum to clear holes in the dash panel. Remove plenum from vehicle by rotating the top of the plenum forward, down and out from under the instrument panel. Carefully pull lower edge of instrument panel rearward as necessary while rolling the plenum from behind the instrument panel.
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  1. Route the vacuum supply hose through the dash panel and seat the grommet in the opening.
  1. Position the plenum under the instrument panel with the register duct opening up and the heater core tubes down. Rotate the plenum up behind the instrument panel and position the plenum to the dash panel. Insert the heater core tubes and mounting studs through their respective holes in the dash panel and the evaporator case.
  1. Install three nuts on the studs along the lower flange and one on the upper flange of the plenum (Fig. 15).
  1. Install three nuts below the windshield wiper motor to attach the LH end of the plenum to the dash panel.
  1. Install one nut to retain the upper LH corner of the evaporator case to the dash panel.
  1. Position floor air distribution duct on plenum. Install two screws and plastic push fastener.
  1. If removed, position panel door vacuum motor to the mounting bracket. Install two retaining screws.
  1. Connect the white vacuum hose to the outside-recirculating door vacuum motor.
  1. Connect the vacuum jumper harness to the plenum harness at the multiple vacuum connector near the floor air distribution duct. Install floor duct.
  1. Connect the ATC sensor tube to the evaporator case connector on ATC equipped vehicles.
  1. Install the cross body brace and connect wiring harness to the blend door actuator on ATC equipped vehicles.
  1. Connect the temperature control cable housing to the bracket on top of the plenum and connect the temperature control cable to the temperature blend door crank arm. Adjust the temperature cable as outlined under Adjustments.
  1. Install the bolt to attach the lower RH end of the instrument panel to the side cowl.
  1. Install the RH side cowl trim panel and tighten the RH door sill plate retaining screws.
  1. Install glove compartment door and check arms.
  1. Connect vacuum supply hose to vacuum supply.
  1. Install RH and LH lower instrument panel insulators.
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Below are instructions for replacing the actuator. Look at the diagrams carefully--the big arrows point to the front of the truck and the actuator is on the side of the heater box above the outlet duct that runs to the driver's side of the floor. Also, the actuator is expensive, so I recommend you make sure it's bad and shop around a bit to get a good price. To check out the actuator, first see if you can turn the blend door by hand. If you can't turn it, maybe it's jammed. Also, reconnect the actuator after removing it and see what it does when you turn the heater to hot.

Removal & Installation
  1. Remove the floor air outlet duct extension (1) from the floor duct (2).

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Fig. Remove the floor air outlet duct extension (1) from the floor duct (2)


Disconnect the electrical connection at the blend door actuator (#10 in pic below). jturcotte_394.gif

Fig. Blend door actuator and related components


Remove the blend door actuator mounting screws from the HVAC module.


Remove the blend door actuator as an assembly with the actuator cam.
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Fig. Remove the blend door actuator mounting screws from the HVAC module



To install:

  1. Install the blend door actuator as an assembly with the actuator cam.
    1. Line up the heater/defroster valve lever with the blend door actuator cam slot.
    2. Line up the A/C valve lever with the blend door actuator cam

  2. Install the blend door actuator mounting screw to the HVAC module.
    1. Tighten the blend door actuator mounting screw to 14 inch lbs. (1.6 Nm).

  3. Connect the electrical connection at the blend door actuator (10).
  4. Install the floor air outlet duct extension (1) to the floor air duct (2).


Picture of actuator:


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