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Idler pulley burning belt rubber. idler bad?

Belt squeaks. installed new belt. v6 no auto belt tensioner. idler pulley surface glazed with burnt/melted rubber. idler is bad and/or cause of squeal?

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Yes, if it is frozen up the belt will squeal and burn up ! you can go to any auto parts store and tell them you need a idler pulley for your vehicle. good-day !

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 17, 2009

SOURCE: Loud squealing sound in my engine

Try removing the belt and turning each pulley by hand. If everything is smooth and free, with the belt still off, drive down the block once and see if the noise is there (this will eliminate all rotating accessories on the front). If you hear the noise, then there is a problem deeper inside. Oil pressure is good? Dont' forget when doing this, you will have no power steering, so be careful.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 22, 2008

SOURCE: Loud squealing sound in my engine

hey

Its possibly the belt!!! did you change that to?

Damien

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 09, 2009

SOURCE: 1996 jeep grand cherokee limited v8

I might not have enough information but the squeal is most likely a worn bearing. Try to isolate it with a "mechanic's stethescope" to locate the source. A pin point shot of WD-40 at the whining bearing (NO NOT put it on good bearings should TEMPORARILY quiet it IF it is a bearing. DO NOT overspray, just at the center of the pulleys...the lubricant should get pulled into bearing to confirm that the pump (power steering would be my guess) needs replacing.

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  • Posted on Jun 28, 2009

SOURCE: Jeep cherokee country tensioner pulley noise

May be a weak tensioner that needs replacing. Make sure you clean pulleys well with brake cleaner or similar as well. I have had one with similar problem, that Gator back belt was causing it. I'm not 100% convinced that a notched belt will get as good a grip as a complete rib all the way around the belt. Just doesn't add up to me. If you compare that to tire grip, then you'd be telling me that snow tires would work better on the Nascar circuit?

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Fig. Accessory serpentine belt routing-3.5L engine


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