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Brake pedal goes all the way to the floor , just blead all four wheels , and the master cylinder , but it still goes all the way down , what can be some options for what its doing and fixing

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Was the Master cylinder replaced, & if so, did you "pre-bleed" it. The master cylinder itself can be bad.

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