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Lose of Master Harddrive

System loses track of master harddrive. If system is idle for to long a length of time, the system will try to reboot but will stall. A look at the CMOS and it will not locate the Master IDE but all other IDE items will show. If you disconnect all cable and power connections and reattach it will only then reboot. Got lastest bios update and still have problem. Downloaded harddrive diagnostic program and all harddrives check ok. Only the Master device is affected which is the system drive. Any thoughts. Thanks, Ellis.

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Have a check with the BUS cable once try replacing the BUS cable which is connected to the HARDDISK .. there may be some problem in the IDE BUS CABLE...

you can fix that by replacing with the new one ...

this problem is not where related to BIOS ..
because if there is any problem in the IDE BUS CABLE means you will face this problem ..

there is one more case it is not oftenly seen actually ..

ie if there is any problem in harddisk means you will face this problem ..

normally the harddisk will work without any problem for 10+ years ...

in very special cases the harddisk failure occurs which is called as catastrophic failure ie the harddisk makes some hissing noise before when it attempts run , this problem may be due to some manufacture defect or if the harddisk is not being used for a long period of time (may be years) ...

so just have a check with things everything will be alright ..

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Did you set the Master harddrive as master?

Or is your reference that you set the jumper cap, on the jumper pins; of both harddrives to Cable Select?

What are the manufacturer names, and model numbers of the two harddrives?

If you just see something like - WD2500JB, that will work.

How many wire is the Flat IDE ribbon cable?

There are 40 wire versions, and 80 wire versions.

Notice I stated - Wire.
They will both have 39 socket holes that are used.
(40 socket holes, with 1 blocked off)

80 wire IDE ribbon cable has Master harddrive in middle.
Slave harddrive at end of cable.
Little weird, huh?

40 wire IDE ribbon cable, has Master harddrive at end of cable, Slave in middle.


As for, "Computer will not see it."

Not trying to insult your intelligence. Am trying to see if we are both on the same page.............

1) You go to My Computer, and there is no drive letter assigned to that harddrive you just installed?

If it is there, you double-click on it to open that harddrive.

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As I recall busy_bee96 the harddrive technology used is IDE. (Also known as PATA)

Let's see if there is information on HP Support;

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07813&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=90384

Yes, if we scroll down to the heading - IDE UDMA Modes, we see ATA 66/100 listed.
IDE (PATA) harddrives are used.

The HP pavilion 513n Desktop PC came with an IDE 60GB harddrive.
I don't know what size Slave drive you are going to install, but there may be a size limitation.

On the back of an IDE harddrive are jumper pins. For the original harddrive these may need to be set to Master.
To perform this function the jumper is placed on the two pins for the Master setting.

These are examples of a Jumper,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jumperblock-shunts.jpg

Small plastic blocks that are hollow inside. There is a rolled spring clip inside the hollow block, that goes over two pins. Connects the two pins together.

General example of the back of an IDE harddrive, showing the Jumper Pins,
I'm going to use Western Digital's IDE harddrive jumper pin settings,

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/463/session/L3RpbWUvMTMxODI2NDI0OC9zaWQvSjEzTHVkR2s%3D

Where it states Dual Master is the setting for the Master harddrive.
Where it states Dual Slave is the setting for the Slave harddrive.

Look at the label on your harddrive, and see if it shows the settings for Master.
If not write down the Model Number, and search it online.
OR, post the Model Number in a Comment, and I'll look it up for you.

It may be where there is NO jumper used on the Master harddrive.

Look up the information for the 2nd (Slave drive) harddrive, if it is not stated on the label.

You need to know where the jumper pin settings should be, when using two harddrives.

Past this point you need to look at the flat ribbon cable.
There are IDE ribbon cables that have 40 wires, and 80 wires.
Both styles have 40 contact pins.
(39 actually. 1 is not used)

With the 40 wire IDE cable the Master harddrive is plugged into the MIDDLE connector, on the cable.
The Slave drive is plugged into the END connector.

With the 80 wires IDE cable, it is reversed.
Master harddrive goes to the END connector, Slave drive goes to the MIDDLE connector.

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

These videos may also help;

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inX3nC6M1E

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTOgt3UiB4&feature=relmfu

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I don't know where the trouble is without more information.
Some tips/information I will list, however,

1) The master harddrive that came with the computer, and has the operating system on it, is a SATA unit.

Therefore any harddrive installed along with it has to be installed as a Slave drive.

BIOS will look for the harddrive with the operating system on it. This harddrive has to be set as a Master drive. (Primary Drive in BIOS)

Installing a harddrive that is a PATA (IDE) unit, AND a PATA optical drive on the same flat ribbon cable, has to be done accordingly;

A) It depends on what flat ribbon cable you have.
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There is an 80 wire cable with a 40 pin connector. (39 actually)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA#IDE_and_ATA-1

Proper method of connecting,

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

2) Proper method of using jumpers on an IDE (PATA) harddrive, and connecting the flat ribbon cable,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inX3nC6M1E


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