I have no manual for this machine. I need to know the proper size bobbin. the one I have which I assumed came with the machine does no wind on the bobbin winder. Also are there any problems with this model's bobbin winder that I should be aware of? I don't know for sure what is causing the problem the boobin or the machine?
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Check that the bobbin winder is snapped all the way over.
Sorry, unable to provide more help, but a standalone bobbin winder may be helpful. You can find one brand (called "Sidewinder") at sewing stores like JoAnn's or online for ~ $30. Just verify that your bobbins will work (some Singer bobbins do not), but I assume your machine is a Bernina. Even if your bobbin winder is repaired, this standalone bobbin winder will save wear and tear on your machine--also, makes it so-o-o-o much easier to wind a bobbin without first removing the thread from your machine.
Having difficulty even locating a photo of the 451. Assuming this is an older model, perhaps this manual will help. It says its also for the 551, so perhaps the model is close enough that it will help you with your machine:
If you are unable to figure out the bobbin winder, you may be able to use a standalone bobbin winder (one brand is called Sidewinder) from the fabric store. They run ~$25-30. Just be sure to bring a bobbin with you to check the fit.
is machine set to darning setting , happens to a lot of them , the button is usually right next to bobbin and its easy to hit by accident this disengages the bobbin drive link so no it wont move
most units have a visual indicator for this function (but not all), but if draw toes under needle foot retract into platen base then yep it's in darning mode , you'll need to find switch and disengage this before it allows you to continue with normal sewing
If you are unable to replace the bobbin winder for your machine, you might check the local fabric stores for a stand-alone bobbin winder. Last time I checked, they cost around $20-25. They are nice to have because it saves wear and tear on your machine. Simplicity SideWinder Portable Bobbin Winder
bobbin winder is the little spindle on top usually right side above the flywheel. you need to move it left away from the stop as this engages the bobbin winder and disengages the needle movement. your manual should show this under Winding a bobbin. these machines dont have a clutch on the flywheel, just moving the bobbin spindle declutches
I just picked up a 4613 and had the same confusion. The answer is...the bobbin winder is built in!! What you do is leave the machine threaded as normal and simply slide open the bobbin cover about an inch. You will see an arrow on the cover which you line up with an arrow on the machine bed. In this position, push the presser foot and run the machine and the bobbin will wind itself. It's actually really nice as you don't ever need to unthread the machine.
manuals can be purchased @ janome. com. your machine should have a bobbin winder. Set empty bobbin on the bobbin winder pin. Thread spool of thread though guide(or tension wheel on the top of the machine;NOT the stitching tension.) wrap thread around bobbin to start, and push bobbin toward the flywheel. slowly press foot pedal and bobbin should begin to turn. apply more pressure to foot pedal to increase speed.When full, bobbin winder should kick back to stop.
Mine stopped working too. Gave up and wound bobbins by hand for a while until I broke down and took the machine apart -- an ordeal to figure out. I found that a pliable ring on the winder was completely disintegrated (gummy plastic-like stuff). An online search found this -- a bobbin "tire" which I THINK is the part I need: http://www.sewingpartsonline.com/bobbin-winder-tire-brother-x55238051.aspx. Hope this helps. --Also cleaned all the lint out when I had the machine opened up. They don't make it EASY!