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No flow of water

My machine is 3 or 4 years old. No water is flowing from coffee side. I opened machine and it looks like there is a small cut in the tubing at its first connection. Can this cause enough air intake to stop the pump from working. Sometimes when I lift the tube & water tank high, the water will flow. If this is the problem, can I replace the tube with readily available tubing from a hardware store? Or is there a sealant I can use?

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  • fagundes79 Oct 10, 2008

    The machine hesitates, that is it sounds like it wants to start pumping water through the coffee side then gets quite again, and sort of comes and goes, trying to pull the shot. Sometimes I will eventually pull the shot, but not most of the time.
    I descale regularly, and removed and cleaned all screens.


  • Anonymous Jan 07, 2009

    I'm having the same problem... before I go out an replace it can this be fixed?

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You can use any readily available tubing, but don't use sealants - they make their way into the water.

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I really sounds like the machine is working properly (water flowing properly) and either the filter material is too thick, or the coffee is too fine, or the flow control mechanism is failing to open properly. (For reference, I use Bunn filters in mine as they are taller and allow the water level to rise deeper in the basket before overflowing.)

Some things to look at: (1) make certain that you are using only one thickness of paper filter, (2) that you are only using coffee designed for your coffee maker (drip grind usually) and that (3) the mechanism is opening properly (not gunked up with dried coffee or whatever).

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The ventilate problem will always come back if the flow meter is restricted. If the flow meter is plugged it will never go away.What happens to cause this problem? Coffee grounds are the answer. If you remove the water tank, it exposes the water intake receptacle under the tank on top of the machine. The small opening in the receptacle that has a hose that goes to the flow meter that then goes to the pump intake. If some coffee particles fall into this opening when you are filling the bean hopper (and they do). When the pump is activated, it creates a suction, moving the water and anything in the hose to the flow meter. The flow meter has a small opening in the intake side. ). When the pump is activated, suction inside the flow meter creates a jet of water, which spins the little turbine inside. The turbine has a small magnet on top that passes a pick up sensor, which tells the computer that water is flowing. If the intake opening is restricted with coffee grounds, it will let some water flow but won't create a jet of water needed to spin the turbine. Water will come out of the steam wand, but won't spin the turbine and the ventilate signal will still be there. If the flow meter is slightly restricted, the pump can create enough suction to spin the turbine when there is no restrictions when the steam valve is just flowing water (priming), but when you try to steam or make coffee and the pump slows down, the jet of water stops and so does the turbine and the ventilate comes back.How to fix this problem? Answer, the flow meter has to be removed and cleaned, or just replaced.How to prevent this from happening? If you are working on the bean hopper (filling with beans) keep the water tank on and covered. This will prevent a bean chip from falling into the receptacle and getting to the flow meter. Do the same with the bean hopper. If you ware filling the water tank, keep the lid to the bean hopper on, so water doesn't spill into the bean hopper and ruin the grinder.bansheracer.jpg

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Problem: No water flow; Solution: Unclog a small orifice in the flow meter


My 5 year-old Syncrony Logic stopped working for the first time today. The water would not flow, not through the steamer, not through the brew group. I had previously thoroughly cleaned the brew group screens, steamer wand, water dispenser filter, etc. Still no water flow. I could hear the pump working but no flow.

I only use distilled water in the unit, so I've never had a scale problem (distilled water has no minerals, thus nothing to create scale). After downloading a parts schematic from here, I dug into the case. By the way, I suggest you don't proceed unless you have at least some mechanical ability and are not afraid to break something in the process. Be sure to unplug from the wall first, unless you really like electricity A LOT.

After removing the drip tray, grinds bin, water tub, and coffee hopper, I removed the gray top. To do this: from the top remove 2 screws under the water tub, 2 screw under the coffee hopper. And from below the control panel: 4 screws from the under-side along the front and behind the brew group cover. Once the screws are out lift the cover at the back and pivot off the front.

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The top of this flow meter easily comes off by slightly twisting the top counter-clockwise about 10 degrees, lining up 3 tabs with slots and lifting it off. Its a little snug coming off due to an o-ring seal. You'll see the little turbine wheel inside. In the top is the input and output ports in the flow meter turbine chamber.

The input opening into the flow meter turbine is TINY. It was clogged with a bit of gooey fluff. I poked it out with a small pipe-cleaner, then made sure the hose from the tank was clean, and the opening into the turbine was gunk-free.

After I put it all back together it ran like a champ again. I love this espresso maker. First problem in 5 years of flawless operation.

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