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BabyLock Proline upper looper thread keeps breaking

I have used this serger with varying degrees of success for about 5 years. However, this latest problem appears to be unsolvable. After stitching about an inch, the upper looper thread breaks. I've been to our local store and she can't figure it out either. She finally replaced the needles and it worked for about 15 min. Now I still have the same problem of the upper looper thread breaking. The thread breaks somewhere under the presser foot or plate. The thread is loose in the thread-guides that lead to the little pointy arm with the hole in it that moves left and right under the needle plate. This is driving me nuts. I live in rural area. HELP!

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  • Anonymous Mar 14, 2014

    upper looper not always setting stitch, very loose

  • Anonymous Mar 19, 2014

    I am using Pearl Crown Rayon thread in my loopers for a 5 thread stitch. The threads break and I am wondering what the tension dials should be set at for these threads?

  • Anonymous Mar 21, 2014

    Right needle thread keeps breaking. I have tried rethreading, etc. and can't seem to figure out the problem.

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I ended up switching the spools of thread around. Apparently, even though I had purchased good quality threads, one of the spools was wound in a way that made the thread loop and twist around. So I put the offending spool of thread through one of the needles and put the needle thread on the upper looper. That seems to be working. By the way, BabyLoc was very unhelpful dealing with this problem.  Thank you!

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