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Ram install problem

G'day
I'm trying to install 2 x 1Gb memory cards into an IBM motherboard and the computer will not boot once they are in. It will run no problems with 1 x 256Mb original ram. Doesn't even boot eith only one of the 1Gb cards installed. Can you offer any assistance
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  • willie_234 Aug 21, 2008

    thanks for that, all specs., ie; freq, ram type are the same, may have something to do with the 2x1 as opposed to the 1x2 but that would probably be the only logical reason I haven't tested. board has only 2 slots, will try a 2 Gb stick.

    thanks

    Clint

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With RAM there can be a few problems
1) the frequency of ram which *********** board supports might be less than the freq at which the ram you are puttin works, hence in this case RAM wont work on this mother board and ull have to get the RAM replaced
2) some motherboards do not support a 2 x 1 GB RAM where as they might support a 1 X 2 RAM (if you do have 2 mem slots for ram)
and then there is the most trivial problem of the slot not being clean or arm not being put properly, i can think of ne other reason for the ram not working properly..

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Ram not working


Step 1:
A memory slot is a slot in your motherboard where you place your RAM (Random Access Memory) card. In layman's terms, the RAM is the "temporary memory" that the computer utilizes whenever it is turned on. If the computer cannot detect a RAM card installed in one of your memory slots, you have to troubleshoot the problem immediately.
Ensure that the problem is with the RAM slot and not the memory card. Turn off the computer, unplug all devices connected into the ports of your computer and open the computer casing. Refer to the manual of the computer to know the specific steps to follow in opening the computer casing. Remove the memory card from the RAM slot. To do this, unlock the card using both hands. Pull the card away from the slot to remove. Inspect the RAM card for any apparent physical damages. Wipe the card with a clean cloth to remove dust. Also wipe the memory slot in your motherboard. Place the RAM card back into the memory slot. Press the card into the slot until it clicks into place. Close the computer casing, connect the cables back into their respective slots and turn on the computer. Turn on the computer and see if the memory is detected. If the computer does not boot up, the RAM card is not detected by the computer. Assuming that you have two memory cards installed in the computer and the computer boots up, check if the second memory card is detected by the computer. Click "Start," right-click "Computer" and then "Properties." Under "System," check the amount of "Installed Memory (RAM)." If the RAM is not detected, the RAM slot or the RAM card itself may be malfunctioning. Place the RAM card into another memory slot in your motherboard and see if the card is detected. If it is detected, the other memory slot is malfunctioning. Do not install any RAM card into it to avoid further damage. If it is not detected, the RAM card may be malfunctioning. Insert another RAM card into the slot. If the RAM card is detected, the slot is malfunctioning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGp5AiyJInI repair memory slot

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Ihow to boot up and get display and set bios on msi motherboard g41m-e43


Add one item at a time.
First memory, then graphics card.

Plus you cleared CMOS Error Codes, and set the BIOS Setup parameters back to the factory default settings.

Guess what the default graphics setting is for an MSI G41ME43 motherboard?

Yep, AGP.

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G41M-E43.html

[Wow, I like MFlash, and the solid Polymer capacitors.
Live BIOS Update 5, and Easy OC Switch.

However if the motherboard fails, I'll bet the Integrated Circuit, (I.C., or 'chipset'), that controls APS, is the first electronic component to go.

I would also watch OC'ing. Has to be done in incremental steps. Automatic feature or not. A 20 percent boost is A LOT.
Hardware components have as tendency to heat up.
Watch it as this lowers the 'life expectancy' of the chips.
Heat - 'Kills' ]

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G41M-E43.html#/?div=Detail

Motherboard chipset:
Northbridge is an Intel 82G43. Southbridge chip is an Intel 82801GB part number. (ICH7) You can't see them as they are under Heatsinks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

Scroll down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Southbridge_9xx_and_3.2F4_Series_chipsets


Ram Memory:
Two ram memory slots for Dual Inline Memory Modules on the motherboard. (DIMM)

A) UNBUFFERED
B) 1.5 Volt (DC)
C) DDR3 Sdram at either 800MegaHertz, or 1066MHz.

[ This puzzled me. DDR3 Sdram at 800MegaHertz?
Why would anyone want to use DDR3 Sdram at 800MegaHertz?
Seems to me going backwards.

Faster frequency rates.
Low end for DDR3? 1066MHz.
High end for DDR2? 800MHz.

DDR3 is faster in comparison to DDR2 per se, because of the prefetch buffer. 8 burst deep compared to DDR2's 4 burst deep.
(Or DDR's 2 burst deep)

Not because of the CAS Latency, though.
DDR3 has a much higher CL, than compared to DDR2.

(Average CL for DDR3 at 1066MHz = 7-7-7-20
DDR2 = 5-5-5-15. Note* -> A-V-E-R-A-G-E. )

When using DDR3 Sdram at least use 1066MHz, IMHO
The maximum ram memory frequency rate, that your motherboard will support ]

So what manufacturer of ram memory is it, and what is the manufacturer code of the ram memory module/s? ('Stick')

JEDEC sets the standards for Ram Memory.
Voltage standard for DDR3 Sdram ram memory is 1.5 Volts (DC)
So the factory default setting is 1.5 Volts, for the motherboard.

However your motherboard supports SPD.
(Serial Presence Detect,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_presence_detect )

Point of the above?
If you are trying to use high-performance ram memory; say one needing a slightly higher voltage, and/or has lower CL ratings; then the SPD on the motherboard may make automatic adjustments.
(Adjustments to the parameters in your BIOS Setup)

May take 2 to 3 'Cold Boots', though.
(Turn the computer all the way off. Wait 1 minute. Turn the computer back on = Cold Boot)

I order for SPD to work, BOTH the motherboard, AND the ram memory, have to have SPD feature.
If the ram memory is too low in quality, (Read cheap), it may not have SPD.

Means you have to go into BIOS Setup, and set the ram memory parameters, manually.

[ Delete key to enter BIOS Setup.
Main BIOS Setup menu > Cell Menu > Memory Z > Advance DRAM configuration >
1) DRAM Timing Mode
2) CAS Latency
3) tRCD
4) tRP
5) tRAS
6) tRTP

Don't forget you have to SAVE changes, or it will be as if you have done nothing at all.

If a mistake is made;
Go back to BIOS Setup, and in the Main menu, use the Down Arrow key to arrive at Load Fail-Safe Defaults. IF -> OK is 'highlighted' (Black surround) press the Enter key. If not, use the Right Arrow key, or Left Arrow key, and highlight OK ]

The ram memory also has to be UNBUFFERED.

Unbuffered ram memory is the opposite of Registered ram memory.
Registered ram memory is more stable, usually one clock slower, and more expensive, than compared to unbuffered ram memory.

Registered ram memory is usually used in SERVER computers.

(A Server computer may look at information 2 or 3 times, before it acts on it. It needs to be C-O-R-R-E-C-T for a server computer )

"Cleared the board i believe"

Turned the computer off? Unplugged from power? Pressed the Power ON button in, and held it in for a count of 10 seconds? Then let go of the Power On button, then performed the entire procedure again, 2 more times?

{Clears CMOS Error Codes, and resets BIOS Setup back to the factory default settings}

You MAY have cleared the motherboard. It's what I use, and have recommended for years on the 'net. Doesn't mean it always works, though. Sometimes you just have to go into BIOS Setup, and set the parameters back to the factory default settings.

(For you? Load Fail-Safe Defaults )

A) Won't boot:
Because the ram memory is the wrong one, (Or ones); OR, the ram memory is high performance, and BIOS and SPD hasn't recognized it yet.

Remove the graphics card.(Computer unplugged from power. Anti-Static Precautions FOLLOWED!)
Remove the ram memory.

Reinstall the old ram memory, and plug the monitor into the VGA port, in the I/O area on the back of the computer tower.

Just get the computer working again. After about 10 minutes of fooling around on the computer, ('net?), turn the computer off.
Install the new 2GB.

(IF, just one ram memory module, be SURE to put it in Slot 1.
{DIMM 1} The ram memory slot closest to the Processor )

Leave the computer case open. You may be going back in pretty soon. (Graphics card)
WAIT 1 minute, then turn the computer on.

Joy?
If no joy shut the computer down. (Press the Power On button in, and hold it in for a count of 10 seconds)

WAIT 1 minute, turn the computer on.
If it doesn't work this time, you may wish to try it again.
Sometimes takes 2 to 3 times, before the high-performance ram memory is recognized.

You can also go into BIOS Setup, as mentioned, and physically set the ram parameters.
After 3 times I would give up however, and send the ram memory back. Wrong one/s.

If you get the new Ram Memory working, Cool!
If not remove it, and use the old ram memory.
Might as well get the computer going with the new graphics card, while you wait on the proper ram memory to arrive.

Did you plug the monitor into the graphics card?
Sometimes we computer geeks get in a wee bit of a hurry, when we get shiny new parts. Make sure the monitor cable is plugged into the graphics card.

There is another tiny thing; DRIVERS
If you did not use the Installation Disk (CD) first, THEN physically installed the graphics card, you are Wrong.

OR downloaded the drivers from EVGA.

What happens if you physically install a graphics card, THEN come back and install the drivers?
Most of the time a Driver Conflict.

Windows: "Which drivers do I use? These or THESE?"

Also sets BIOS Setup to the correct graphics aperture.

With the computer set back to the factory default settings, and the monitor plugged into the VGA port on the motherboard, you can get Windows running, and install, or download AND install, the Drivers.

ONCE the drivers, (And user interface -> Nvidia Control Panel), have been installed, you can then physically install the graphics card.

[Again; If you download the drivers, do NOT forget you have to go to where they are downloaded, and DOUBLE-click on the file, then use the Installation Wizard. (Or double-click on the .exe file)
INSTALL them! ]

Drivers installed, close all windows, go back to your desktop screen.
Turn the computer off. Unplug from power. FOLLOW Anti-Static Precautions. Physically install the graphics card. Plug the monitor into the graphics card. Plug the computer back into power. WAIT 1 minute, turn the computer on.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

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Hi,
Regarding the Beep codes try removing the Memory Rams one at a time and see if the computer will turn On properly with 1 RAM at a time, if you have an expansion video card, try removing the video card and use the internal video on the motherboard see if it will boot without any errors.
What you are experiencing is a no POST issue, you do not see the BIOS as you mentioned,remove anything expansion on the motherboard and do the RAM Dance, try One RAM at a time as mentioned and try each RAM on all the Memory RAM slots Available to find out if it will be a RAM causing the issue or possible a bad Memory Slot on the Motherboard.

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Problems with 3 brand new PC 133 512 MB RAM in Netvista 6794


That last RAM probably is good. Many motherboards have problems using many different memory. All of the memory you have should be at least identical to ensure that they work. When RAM run at different speed or require a little more voltage, they will not let your motherboard boot. You can try mixing up the order you put the RAM in. Try putting the last RAM in the first slot by itself, the motherboard should boot. Then try the rest.

Also, whenever you add or change hardwares, you should clear the CMOS/BIOS settings.

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sounds like the motherboard trying to give you an error code. search beep codes for the type of motherboard you have and then you will get a possible cause of the interruption.

my friend once gave me an old ibm that had a beeping sound preventing it from booting. i googled ibm beep codes and learned that it was a video card error. i swapped the video card and problem solved

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I believe resetting the CMOS would fix this problem. To reset the CMOS, open up the computer and locate a battery similar to this one (it's on the motherboard):

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Once you find it, pull it out. Leave it out for about 24 hours (one day) afterward placing the battery back into its slot on the motherboard. Now try booting up.

It should now successfully start up requesting that you make changes to the BIOS since the CMOS was just reset. Afterward you should be able to use the computer normally.

NOTE: Try resetting the CMOS with the original RAM inside the computer. The new RAM might be forcing the motherboard to send too much voltage or use an incompatible Mhz setting to support the new stick of RAM.

Let me know how it turns out and if I can do anything else to assist you.

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Hi

Reseat all the RAM, CMOS battery and any PCI graphics cards and then try to boot the computer.

Also remove all the memory cards and then turn on the computer. If you dont get any beep sounds, then it is a problem with 1 or more RAM cards.
Then alternatively try with 1 RAM at a time in different slots and check if it is a problem with any of the RAM cards or the RAM slots.

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the DDR IS THE RAM , the processor and the ram and a good motherboard work and produce a beep,
remove the processor and the ram, get other working processor and the ram and try on your system, it works troubleshoot the removed processor and ram to find out the bad one and it does not work, your motherboard is dead.


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PC will not reboot.


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1 Beep
If the PC boots properly, then this beep is normal. It is an audio cue that the PC has passed the POST and started to boot.

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2 Beeps
  • (AMI) Memory problem
3 Beeps
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4 Beeps
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5 Beeps
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6 Beeps
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7 Beeps
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8 Beeps
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9 Beeps
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10 Beeps
  • (AMI) Motherboard problem
11 Beeps
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