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I can't find the Timing for Crucial PC3200 DDR 400mhz

I'm trying to run my rig with Dual channel memory (mobo is capable). I have a 1gb stick of Patriot PC3200 DDR 400mhz and I've found a stick of Crucial PC3200 DDR 400mhz that I can get a good price on and need to know the timing for it. I'm running two different makers on another rig (Kingston 512mb & Micron 512mb). (same capacity, speed, timing) and their running perfect Dual Channel.
Crucial's rep didn't have a clue, just tried to sell me a 2GB kit.
My Patriots running 3-4-4-8.
Do you know what the Crucial runs at ?

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    Brian Fitzpatrick Sep 11, 2008

    Hey Colliewob, your wrong, pfftttt, but don't worry, your in good company because all those frekin lying no knowing wanna make a sale beeotches at Frys, Tiger Direct, Crucial and Patriot have told me that inorder to run Dual Channel you have to Modules from the same manufacturer. BULLSH**.

    HIGH FIVE TO YOU Azkeyz. Yepper, lies lies lies. and I've gone and sent messages to all four of these supposedly knowledgeable companies about their lies. Even sent them pics.

    BECAUSE, I went and got the killer deal I was in question about (3 BRAND NEW 1gb sticks of PC3200 400mhz DDR, 2 Crucial & 1 Kingston) $39 +$2.50 for shipping = $41.50.

    Then I put Kingston in my main rig with the 1gb stick of Patriot and went to CPUZ and botta bing botta bomb... DUAL CHANNEL. Both are running 3-4-4-8 just fast & fine. Then I put the 2 Crucial sticks in my Media Downloading/burning Rig and since they were the same..2.5-3-3-7,.. Dual Channel no prob.

    So then just for shits and giggles I went and pulled a stick of the Crucial & stuck in the Kingston stick, now remember they have different timings, so yea, I couldn't get Dual Channel with them,....... well roscoe I went into my BIOS and changed up the RAM timings from default on my MOBO to 3-3-3-8 and Lo & Behold now CPUZ is showing Dual Channel for this MIXED BREED of RAM. one note of interest.. I couldn't get the Kingston to come down to the faster timings of the Crucial, but the Crucial had no problem slowing up to the Kingston ( Patriot/Crucial no problem either).

    These 2 computers have been running stable like this now for a week

    1st rig = Winfast 6100K8MA 939 mobo with a Athlon 64 2.2 3500 OC'd to 2753.5 - Patriot/Crucial

    2nd rig = GigabyteGA-8VM800M LGA775 mobo with a 3.2 Celeron D OC'd to 3.37 - Crucial/Kingston

    So, to all you nay sayers. take a hike. It can be done. mix/ matching RAM is not a problem as long as the Size, Speed and the Timings are the same. and the Timings can be adjusted if your not afraid (and have a little knowledge) of digging into your BIOS and changing things up a bit.

    note: On my Athlon Rig I've got the RAM bumped up to 450mhz and it's still stable. noticable speed gain too.

    Believe half of what these big companies say and question the rest they say.



  • Brian Fitzpatrick
    Brian Fitzpatrick Sep 18, 2008

    hey tomal12, thats a prety cool website and it looks like theres a lot of good info to be found, BUT, I don't have an Intel mobo.......neither one of them are, as I stated in the begining of this thread.

    But if you read thru it you will see that I have found a solution to my original problem.

    thanks for the try and the link




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Hey bud I ain't raggin you, but from your statement, which you now say you left out a bunch, one could only think that when you said "same" it meant like the same everything. Ok so now your not in the same good company of those lying SOB's that want to sell you their products exclusively.
I actually also have a friends computer that has a 512mb stick of PC2700 Hynix and a 512mb stick of PC2700 Crucial in it just like yours and they were running in Single Channel mode and I got them to run Dual Channel by adjusting his BIOS to 2.5-3-3-7 and now his computer picked up about 10% with them running in Dual Channel mode.
I have found out now that as long as the capacity & speed are the same you can adjust the timming to get them forced into Dual Channel by changing the BIOS up a little.

later and happy tweakin
my daddy always said, "It is only thru communication that knowledge is gained"

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Well not exactly true there colliewob , I hate to go against a higher ranker but in this case you may not be telling the exact truth , one CAN run dual channel with two different DDR sticks

dual channel DDR is kind of a missconception , because motherboards operate in dual channel mode if you have two sticks of the same speeds and timmings , they can be of different brands

what I'm saying here is that DUAL-Channel is an old concept from the days of the Pentium MMX chips where you needed to run two sticks of memory before it could work.

todays dual channel marketing lie has capitolized on that , and repackaged it as DUAL CHANNEL
because they like to tell marketing lies to get you to think it's brand new technology concepts.

I don't expect a fixya for my stements here , just trying to wake us up a bit to the lies.

lets all gang up on them and stop these lies.

shalom >:D<

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  • Steven Brown Sep 11, 2008

    I WOULD like to say I run 1G of Mushkin BH6 ( 4x256 ) thats 4 sticks of 256 each.

    I COULD do the 2 sticks of 512 thing using OCZ but I had a sick of that stuff go bad in a client machine and I dare not use them.

    I would like to say that my Mushkin 2-2-2-5 "purple heat sinks" are actually 2-2-2-6 but none the less they have been the best DDR sticks I've ever seen , they've been in my Asus P4C800-E board from the time I got it back in 2004 , and for those that don't know , each of them is rated at 2.5 Volt but on they love more voltage, I set mine at 2.8volt in the bios because I'm aware of the fact that the Asus P4C800-E voltage settings may not be accurate , and because they are actually BH6 chips and love a little more voltage , and because it just works.

    and HIGH FIVE to you brainpup , you took the words right out of my mouth.

    and you're data is also acurate.

    Memory configureation is an art form :->



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Sorry to run dual channel memory both stick MUST be the same

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    David Sep 11, 2008

    I am not wrong I said ' both sticks must be the same " I did not say same make and when timing was altered in BIOS you made them the same
    I am running 1 stick Hynix and 1 Crucial in my computer and made same timing in BIOS
    All I did was not go far enough in explanation


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