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My Kenmore (385 81710)

I have a Kenmore sewing machine..It works perfect but when the needle comes down to pick up the string from the bottom, it doesn't. Everything works fine but the string doesn't appear to be picked up by the needle..Any idea on what I could do? Thanks bro.

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  • Desi123 Aug 19, 2008

    This happens with both Zig Zag and straght stitches. It doesn't stitch at all because the needle is not picking up the thread. Also this model has the front loading bobbin area. I have tried to put in a new needle, but fail to understand what threading is. I have lost the manual for this so I have no idea on how to thread. Any tutorial on threading would be greatly appreciated. Also I'm thinking the timing needs to be set because when I talked to someone else about this they said something about the timing. I Think this is a one piece machine am not sure. I will provide you with a link to what my machine looks like and maybe you can determine that yourself. Even if it is two piece I am not worried about breaking it. It already is broken so do not worry about that. I am ready to take any instructions by you as to how to open this and time it correctly. Thanks so much for your help again brother.

    PS: The link to the photo is :
    http://www.sewconsult.com/kenmore_instru...


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Posted on Aug 19, 2008

Hi,

OK, it is the timing (of the needle to the hook)......the page link you sent was very close to another that will give timing instructions for the 385 model, however I have a feeling you may have a newer model with the same number.

BTW, $8 for a User manual with service tips sounds like very good value.

Again I stress, if you have no way of undoing the base as a separate plate, and there is one joint running through the machine from handwheel to needleplate, take it to a repair shop.

If you can remove the base separately, the detailed instructions for timing are HERE

As a general guide to threading correctly, sewusa has ver good instructions for many models HERE.

Even if your particular machine is not included, you ought to get a very good idea of where the thread should go, as the principle is the same......

1. From Spool to a guide above Left....could be front or rear
2 Sometimes a 2nd guide on top front
3 Through Tension Unit
4 Up to Take up lever (moving arm)
5 Down towards needle

There may then be one or two more guides on the body and finally on the needle arm, before the needle itself.

Hope this is all of some use, let us know how you get on.

Cheers
Martyn

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When you say "it works fine" I guess you mean everything seems to move as it should, but the stitch is not being picked up.....so although working fine, it is not actually working at all........or is it intermittent, missing stitches...

Does it happen on straight, Zig zag or both ?

Does this model have a front or top loading bobbin ?

First thing, ensure the bobbin area and top tension are clean and clear of lint.

Change to a new needle and make sure the machine is threaded correctly

Can you form a stitch ?

If not, the timing will need to be looked at......are you or do you have a friend who is quite mechanical with basic small screwdrivers, allen keys etc ?

...if it has front, base, rear & side panels, it is far easier to get at with little risk of you doing damage.....BUT...

If it is a 2 piece plastic moulded body, you will likely break the retaining clips as you try to get it apart...best to take it to a repair shop where they ought to have the service manual to know where all the hidden screws and clips are.

There are several options for timing adjustment depending on the model, usually either near the handwheel or on the bottom shaft.

... this 385 (if that is what it is) model was never released in Australia, so it is difficult for me to know which Janome equvalent it would be (they are the same manufacturer however).

Can you find a photo of the model, (try a google images for Kenmore 385 and see if it is yours) or ask your local Janome shop if they can tell you, we can then look at further details for self timing.....but I stress again, if it is a 2 piece body, don't try it at home.

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    Hi,

    OK, it is the timing (of the needle to the hook)......the page link you sent was very close to another that will give timing instructions for the 385 model, however I have a feeling you may have a newer model with the same number.

    BTW, $8 for a User manual with service tips sounds like very good value.

    Again I stress, if you have no way of undoing the base as a separate plate, and there is one joint running through the machine from handwheel to needleplate, take it to a repair shop.

    If you can remove the base separately, the detailed instructions for timing are HERE

    As a general guide to threading correctly, sewusa has ver good instructions for many models HERE.

    Even if your particular machine is not included, you ought to get a very good idea of where the thread should go, as the principle is the same......

    1. From Spool to a guide above Left....could be front or rear
    2 Sometimes a 2nd guide on top front
    3 Through Tension Unit
    4 Up to Take up lever (moving arm)
    5 Down towards needle

    There may then be one or two more guides on the body and finally on the needle arm, before the needle itself.

    Hope this is all of some use, let us know how you get on.

    Cheers
    Martyn

    bargainbox.com.au

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