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How do you open front panel on miele w864 to clean out drain pipe to uper right hand side of drum i belive this has a sensor that detects when blocked and once clear machine will work ok , drain pump is working

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Hi - in most cases there are three screws behind the door, 2 screws for the door lock, some models will require the removal of soap dish and screws.

Should not be the case here, 2 screws on the lower part of the front panel, open the small trap door bottom RH corner unscrew cap to remove the rubbish from the drain pump as this shuts off the machine too.

Be careful to have a contaner to catch H2O as the cap unscrews.

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11. Extend the steel band and remove it.

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