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Murray Ultra 46in starter solenoid was clicking on start attempt, no engine turnover. I charged the battery, checked the fuse and finally replaced both. Then I replaced the rusted-on solenoid. By memory and google searches I'm confident that I have the wiring correct. The clip on the black wire to the male connector partially broke but I have used electrical tape. I still have no reaction upon attempting to start. Ideas? Can't tell if a wiring problem or other?

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  • russschoenke May 28, 2011

    Thanks Paul4265. Yes, replacing the black wire was an obvious next step. In addition I also replaced the fuse harness as it was not holding the fuse in very securely and the metal connectors were beginning to crumble. New battery is fully charged. I still have no turnover. No sounds, no lights. Battery cables are looking new. Seat cutoff Switch looks fine and was working recently before my troubles began at the solenoid. I'm trying to come up with my next plan of action.

  • russschoenke May 29, 2011

    I'm looking for further advice. Meanwhile I'm replacing the spark plugs.

  • russschoenke May 29, 2011

    Joe, not sure if you if you can see my last update. I've already replaced that wire and male connector.
    Thanks.

  • russschoenke May 29, 2011

    I need further ideas. Thanks.

  • russschoenke May 30, 2011

    Honestly, I'm not sure how to check the voltage at the seat switch. I have a hand held battery tester though. My solenoid is a three Connector with green ground wire securely attached at solenoid flange /frame. How do I test voltage there? All wires appear secure. So I'm hoping that your approach of testing each area provides a clue. Thanks.

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If the solinoid is clicking it is tryiny to work, make sure you have a good earth to the solinoid, and a good earth to and from the battary, make sure you have connected the battary the correct way round, you can try carefully putting a suitable jump leed between the two high tention conections on the solinoid, if the engine still does not crank it could be an issue with the starter motor itself, turn the engine backwards by hand to make sure the the starter gear is not trapped in the flywheel ring gear.

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Check voltage and connections at seat switch also.If there is any loose connection or shorted wire it will cause the problem.by pass seat switch and connect wire directly and see if that helps.-------- also for starter solenoid problem, check voltage at starter solenoid, there should be 12 volts an also check the starter ground wire connections.Is it mounted to the frame.-------- This will help.Thanks.Helpmech.

Posted on May 29, 2011

  • raj somaiya May 30, 2011

    The seat switch is under the seat, when you sit on the seat the seat switch gets pressed and completes the circuit and mower starts.But if this seat switch is not getting connected properly then it will not let the mower to start or some times mower will start and stop and repeat the same cycle.Just to test if its seat switch issue.Remove the seat switch connections and connect jumper wire between the seat switch wires then try to start.If the mower starts and runs fine, then its seat switch issue.If not then its starter connections issue.Re check the starter solenoid connections, remove and reconnect also check voltage at ground green wire. if it shows voltage then its getting short, if no voltage that means its proper connected.----------
    This will help.Thanks.Helpmech.

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Hello russ... i suspect that the parts that you taped together are not a good enough connection to make everything work properly. replace those broken components and you should be good to go. J.

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Hi, Russ.

First, I would replace the entire black wire that has the broken connector on it.
If it has even a partial break in the internal wires, then it could restrict the power supply to the point where it won't start.

Next, at the point where the solenoid attaches and it was rusted, you need to scrape every bit of the rust away, as some of the solenoids utilize the frame structure as the common ground, so if it's not getting a good connection due to rust build up, then it can prevent proper function as well.

Now, you said you bought a new battery, so I would check to make sure that it is fully charged.
Sometimes, the manufacturer put just enough charge in it so that it will light a lightbulb, and that's about it.

The next thing after that you will want to check is the wires for the starter switch, see if there is any corrosion or rusting going on there as well.

As you can see, rust, and good contacts play a major role in proper functioning of the mower.

I wouldn't have thought that it would make that much difference, until my old Bolen's riding mower started acting strange.

Turned out, the back of the ignition switch was so corroded, that it looked like it was ready to fall apart.

I know this was several items that I listed for you to check, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but it gives you a major place to start and see if the problem lies with those areas.

I hope this helps you out, and have a good day.

Posted on May 27, 2011

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    Paul Pope May 29, 2011

    Hi, Russ.

    I have a couple more things that might be causing the mower to not start.

    First, although the seat safety switch might be o.k., I would still try to send some voltage into it, and then manipulate the switch to ensure that the power is indeed making all the way through the switch.

    Another thing that might cause it is the wires going both to the seat switch, and from the switch to the solenoid and starter.

    It almost always turns out to be something little when a mower fails to start.
    I had one that wouldn't start unless the headlights were on high beam!

    Weird, I know, but I'm just saying that the strangest things can cause a ignition fault.

    Maybe you'll find out that the seat switch is in fact defective, if so then at least that will be a inexpensive repair.

    Good luck to you, and I hope you can get it going.

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