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Ground loops with Lectrosonics T1

By Peter1 - usenet poster


I have been experiancing some ground loop problems with the Lectrosonics T1 IFB
transmitter.  I use the T1 for wireless headphone feeds and the "loop" occurs
when running both my mixer and the TI off of the same battery sourse.  

I found that by lifting the ground (pin 1 of the XLR) solves the problem, but
there is another situation that I can not remedy.  Occationly I need to input
the T1 with an unbalanced (mono) mic level output from my mixer.  Obviously
with an unbalanced sourse it is not possible to lift the ground an thus, I get
a high pitched oscillation in at all the R1 receivers.

Any suggestion?  Thanks.
Tom

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Solution #1
posted on Aug 07, 2005
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kcw573

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Hi Tom,

That high pitched oscillation you are hearing may be generated from the
LED display on the T1 transmitter.  You can decrease this oscillation by
decreasing the LED display intensity.

From the manual:

The LED display brightness may be adjusted from 1 to 15, 15 being the
highest intensity.  To adjust the display intensity, turn the power off
then hold the FREQ UP button while turning the unit back on.  The
display will show the current setting.  Use the FREQ UP and FREQ DOWN
buttons to adjust the brightness setting.  When finished turn the unit
off, wait untill the display extinguishes (about 4 seconds), then the
turn the unit back on.    

I hope this helps.  Lectrosonics knows of the problem and is currently
working on a solution.

Sincerely,
David Missall
LSC

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Solution #2
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man1

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Peter,

Appreciate your comments.  At present I have sent the T1 back to Lectrosonics
just to double check the unit.  Apparently there is a posibility that some or
all of this could be cause by a bad DC to DC converter.  Ultimately however, I
think I am going to have to transformer isolate the unit as you did.   Because
I often have to use an "over the shoulder" mixer I will probably look for a
lighter weight solution such as a transformer built in to the XLR connector.

Thanks for your help,
Tom

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Solution #3
posted on Aug 07, 2005
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Luisa_K

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Tom,

Why don't you also consider using the T2 transmitter for your over the
shoulder work. The T2 looks just like a Lectrosonics frequency agile belt
pack upright antenna transmitter and is just as easy to use. It also take an
internal 9volt battery so you won't have any over the shoulder powering
issues to deal with. You could also use both transmitters together on
separate frequencies when on your cart for two different feeds because the
receivers are capable of receiving multiple channels (one for the director's
feed, the other for your sound assistant or boom operator.) I also feel the
250mw output of the T1 is a bit too much rf to have floating around so close
to your radio mic receivers when over the shoulder. The T1's 100mw is more
than ample for most applications. In fact I used a T1 on the bridge  of a
Trident Nuclear Submarine that was at dock. The client (couldn't squeeze
them in) was able to hear perfectly from dockside. If they will penetrate
the most awesome weapon known to mankind.... they should do just fine for
you!

Charles Tomaras
toma @tomaras.com
Seattle, WA    USA

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Solution #4
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Beresford

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Tom,

I ended up using a whirwind line balancer/splitter to help solve this problem
with my T1. The whirlwind box transformer isolates & splits a line level signal
& will balance an unbalanced line level source. It has a 1/4" unbalanced input,
 XLR F balanced input & 2 XLR M outputs, each with switchable ground lift
switches. One XLR output is switchable between isolated & direct output, the
second is always isolated. The box requires no power.
It REDUCED my oscillation considerably, but I Haven't had time to troubleshoot
& eliminate it completely.
BTW, this box is also handy for an extra feed for the EPK crew.

Hope this helps,
Regards,
Peter

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Solution #5
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LiZzIe

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Call Lectrosonics at 1-800-821-1121 and they will help you trouble shoot
your problem. I have the T-2 transmitter and haven't had any problems of
that sort, but it is a different animal than the T-1.

Charles Tomaras
toma @tomaras.com
Seattle, WA    USA

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