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After Six years the clock still works fine, just it gets stuck when is is time to turn the trippers on and off

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The clock motor has gotten weak.
With Intermatic T100 series timers, replace WG170 120Volt or WG1573 240Volt clock motor for $20.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#T100

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My pool timer does not turn on at the scheduled time. Clock works fine until it gets to the start time and then seems to hang up and not activate. If manually activated it works fine and turns off on...


Intermatic? Sounds like 120Volt WG1570 clock motor or 240Volt WG1573 clock motor has gotten bad and needs replacement. This would cause tripper to stall, and motor will eventually cause stop.
Copy following links to identify available parts and troubleshoot resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#T100
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
Remove trippers from dial, and operate pump manually until replacement motor arrives. Order extra trippers also, since they are made of soft metal and designed to wear down so timer mechanism will last decades.
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The timer has started stopping at the time it should switch on, as though it is stuck. It works fine if I turn it on manually and turns off at scheduled time. I am thinking it might be the timer tripper...


You can buy trippers, but problem is the timer clock motor has gone bad.
Clock modules are not sold separately.

Maybe easiest to buy cheap plug-in timer, set power pack override to ON, then plug power pack into cheap timer.

http://waterheatertimer.org/Malibu-power-pack-stopped-working.html

Aug 21, 2011 | Malibu ML88TL 88Watt Low Voltage Power...

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My Intermatic timer is not working. I replaced the WG1573-10D motor but still it does not work. The manual override works so the power supply is ok. Any suggestions welcome.


Your question doesn't provide enough information.

You have 240Volt T104 Intermatic timer?
A) WG1573 is for 240 volt timer. If you have T101 or T103 timer, it takes 125V clock motor.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search

B) This is new installation? and clock motor only worked when override was ON, so you bought new clock motor. But actual problem is that wires from Load and Breaker are reversed.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

C) Your timer worked fine in past years, but dial stopped rotating so you bought new clock motor?
You replaced clock motor.
Manual override works.

--And then your information ends.
Does clock motor work? Does the dial turn? Are your on-off trippers on the dial?
Are tripper worn down?
Buy new trippers.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search

If clock motor does not work, and circuit is 240Volts, then I suspect you connected clock motor to wrong terminals>? Clock motor connects to terminals 1 and 3.

Add a comment and fill in details so we can properly troubleshoot.

Dec 04, 2010 | RTO Intermatic Inc Wg1573-10d Replacement...

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Power is good going into the timer but the timer is not running. I am wondering if there is a fuse that needs to be changed or a reset switch? The timer has been replaced in the last year.


If I understand correctly, you have T-104 240V timer.
Timer was running fine before, and recently stopped working.
If this is not your timer, add a comment.

1) Click manual override back and forth to see if Load turns on-off.
If Load does not turn on-off, then check power at Load.
Timer has 5 terminals A 1 2 3 4
Check terminals 2 and 4 for 240Volts when Load is ON

2) Check terminals 1 and 3 for 240Volts to make sure timer has full 240V and breaker is not tripped OFF on one leg. If timer has 120V, it appears to have voltage, but clock will not rotate and Load will not turn on-off. Check breaker for 240V across both screws.

3) Is dial rotating?
If dial is not rotating or is stuck in place, replace 208-277V clock motor.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK2?Pid=search

4) If dial is rotating, but trippers don't flip on-off lever, then trippers may be worn down. Buy new trippers.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search

5) How to wire T104 timer
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

How timer works
:
Clock motor rotates dial.
ON-OFF trippers on dial contact lever.
ON tripper pushes lever one direction.
OFF tripper pushes lever other direction.
Lever moves electrical contacts together, or pulls contacts apart.
When lever moves on-off, manual override lever also snaps back and forth with audible clicking sound.

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Nov 24, 2010 | Intermatic T104 24h 208-277v Mechanical...

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I having troble with my t103 timer to turn the lights on manualy i try to set the timer but for some reason doesn't work what can i do ???


T103 Intermatic timer has 120Volt clock motor and can control 120V or 240V Loads.
Wiring for timer is shown on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T103

Troubleshoot T103:
1) Manual override is working correctly, and it snaps crisp and clean, and Load turns on-and-off.
That means timer is basically good.

2) Next look to see if yellow dial is rotating.
If dial is not rotating, then 120Volt clock motor needs to be replaced.
Take photo of wiring and mark wires before starting.
Remove two white wires connected to screw terminals 1 and A.
Snap timer mechanism out of box, clock motor is on back of timer.
Use small star screwdriver to remove old clock motor.
Reattach white wires on terminals 1 and A, tighten screws very tight.
Reset current time: lift and rotate dial until current time lines up with silver pointer.
Grainger sells 125V clock motor:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search

3) If dial is rotating, but gets stuck at certain times, or runs slow, then replace clock motor.

4) If dial is rotating, and trippers are attached to dial, but timer does not turn ON, then trippers are worn down and need to be replaced.
Grainger sells the T103 trippers
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search

5) How Intermatic mechanical timers work:
Dial with ON-OFF trippers is rotated by clock motor.
Trippers on dial contact ON-OFF lever.
ON tripper pushes lever one direction.
OFF tripper pushes lever opposite direction.
Lever moves electrical contacts on back of timer that turn Load ON-OFF.
Manual override lever clicks back and forth with each ON-OFF action.

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I have a w100 tork timer and i would like to know how to repair it and how to position the time pointer.


How to position time pointer
Rotate disk counterclockwise until current time lines up with silver pointer
Place trippers on outer edge of dial > trippers are reversible so one side of tripper in ON > flip tripper over and it is OFF.
Disk rotates with passing time, trippers click lever ON and OFF at set times

How to repair W100:
If dial is not rotating, then clock motor is bad >> W100 uses 120V clock > check markings on clock. Internet shows Tork T101M and T201M clock motors, but unclear if either clock matches W100 timer.
If dial rotates but trippers do not turn Load on-off then buy P-69 trippers
If manual override turns Loan on-off then electric circuit is working
If manual override does not operate Load, then check electric circuit or Load (light bulbs burned out)
If manual override is sluggish or stuck, and doesn't click crisp and clean, then timer is worn out or needs to be cleaned.

Product Manual:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html#W-series
Link above shows manuals
Manual for W100 does not show specific clock-motor model

To buy parts or another timer
P-69 trippers available on web
Tork T101M and T201M clock motors available on web but unclear if they match W100

http://www.weisd.com/store2/tork/torktimer1.php
Page above sell W-series time dial part #70159 for 72$.
Page does not include photo, so unclear if dial includes clock-motor, or if voltage is 120V
Tork accessories pdf shows part #70159 as dial for W, with no other information

Same seller shows new W100 sells for $148.

Replace Tork with Intermatic, buy T7401B
Website sells T7401B for $114
T7401B is 120V timer and has 120V clock motor
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/3377/ELEC-T7401B.html
Manual for T7401B
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/t7401b%20-%20english.ashx

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I've set the time on/off and ive tried turning on manually but the lights wont turn on on exact time set. y? when i manually turn on the lights come on 2 hrs later or so, y doesnt it turn on right away?


If I understand correctly, you have an Intermatic timer.
The timer has a yellow dial that rotates around like a clock.

Does the manual override work?
If yes.
a) then the circuit has electricity
b) the lights are in working order

Does the clock rotate?
If yes
a) then the timer is probably good
b) the clock motor could be bad
c) the gears could be rusty and dirty

Do you have the current time set correctly?
Lift and rotate dial until current time lines up with silver pointer.

Do you have the trippers set on the correct time?
There are ON trippers and OFF trippers
Attach trippers to correct time
Tripper pins wear out

Suggestion: You sit in front of the timer and watch the trippers as they rotate to the bottom of the dial
When the trippers get to the bottom, they push a lever that turns lights on and off.
Look at the photo:
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Here's a website that sells tripper pins and clock motors for Intermatic timers.
You can buy new trippers or clock motor
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi

Answer this post if you still can't figure out the problem, or need more help.

Oct 23, 2010 | Intermatic & Indoor/Outdoor Rain Tight...

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How do i set timer to turn lights off and on


If I understand correctly, you have Intermatic electro-mechanical timer that has a yellow clock dial on front
And you want to set the timer to turn lights on and off
And your wiring is correct and the manual override turns the lights on-and-off correctly

To set timer:
Pull dial back toward you. Rotate clock dial until current time lines up with silver pointer.
On other brands of timer, you rotate dial until current time lines up with an arrow or the word 'time' located on lower right of clock dial
Timer has on-off trippers that fit outer edge of dial.
Intermatic trippers are labeled ON and OFF
Other brands of timer have dark and light-colored trippers >> I think the dark trippers on some brands are OFF

Place 'off' tripper when you want timer to turn off
Place 'on' tripper when you want timer to turn on
Turn on electricity and expect timer to run for 20 years
Dial has to be re-set to current time after power outage

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html

Oct 20, 2010 | Intermatic & Indoor/Outdoor Rain Tight...

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Clock turns untill pump turns on then stops. does c8866 timer work with well control box?


If I understand correctly, you are controlling 240V water well pump with Intermatic C8866 Repeat timer.

So you must be using pump to irrigate, and want to turn pump on at certain times of day for short periods ... and want this schedule to repeat continually non-stop.

1) The c8866 repeats the same program every 4 hours so this is good choice for irrigation and it just turns the circuit on-and-off so it works fine with well control box (unless you want more complex programming).
Many types and prices of cycle timers
More cycle timers

Let me give a buckshot answer and see if I hit one of the targets you have.

2) C8866 according to manual:
a) You have on-off trippers
b) First ON tripper turns on load for 32-40 seconds
c) Each additional ON tripper will lengthen ON time by 30 seconds

3) To lengthen ON time: add successive ON trippers into dial. Each successive tripper adds 30 seconds. Let's say you want ON time to be 3 minutes, you need 6 successive ON trippers.
Maximum timer setting is 240 minutes, so your ON-OFF program repeats every 4 hours.
10 Tripper pins come with timer.
Buy more pins at Grainger for 2.69

4) Did you say the clock stops running after hitting the tripper? If so, maybe you need a bit of grease on the pins ... or a new clock motor? Buy clock motors at Aplus
5) Review the wiring
Hots from Breaker connect to COM and CLOCK poles
1 Hot to Load connects to NO normally open pole
Other Hot to load connects to CLOCK pole

6) You can reverse ON-OFF programming by the following:
Change Hot to Load from NO to NC pole and this will reverse on-off programming

Oct 02, 2010 | Hardware & Accessories

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