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During the grinding process its noisier than usual, also its not grinding properly before it spits the half ground beans all through the brew group into the waste and and drip trays. I have the grind set to medium and cleaned and confirmed all settings on the brew group are correct.

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  • petemc785 May 22, 2011

    I had made a perfect coffee an hour before it started doing this. Would the bearings take a while to wear out? We are not even getting a brew out now as the beans are spat straight through the brew group.

  • petemc785 May 25, 2011

    thanks for the suggestions guys, its still under warranty so i'll be taking it back to them for a fix. will let you know what happens.

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Saeco's automatic coffee machines instantly grind the beans automatically. The brew group of this machine only takes a simple gesture for it to be quickly and easily removed from the machine and cleaned. Just rinse it under running water, without using chemical additives, to remove all dirt and coffee residues, So You need to clean all brew group and grinder. Descale the machine. Check the grinder has set properly in the machine. If it doesn't help you then you may have to replace the brewer or grinder.

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The real clue to the problem is that the grinding process is noisier than usual - the bearings in your
grider are nearly shot. These high torque/low RPM small motors are hard on their bearings, and yours is almost dead.
May as well run it til it dies though, since replacing seized bearings is the same amount of work
as replacing almost-dead bearings (if parts are available at all - I don't see any indication that
Saeco sells replacement parts...).
Typically, parts are unavailable for small appliances, unfortunately...
Note that there's a "secret diagnostic mode" designed into the machine, but I have no inside
info to get you into that mode, nor a service manual to guide you once inside diagnostic mode.

Here's a video covering cleaning your Saeco Odea Giro Plus Coffee Maker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7iVVSutleE

Here's a video showing the "optimal" performance of the machine grinding 10g of coffee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YPho7RRC2s&feature=related

Here's the 192-page online owners' manual for the device (wonderfully rendered in Dutch & English)
http://www.wholelattelove.com/manuals/Saeco/Odea%20Giro%20Full.pdf

If your appliance is still under Saeco warranty,


For warranty service of your Saeco machine, please contact:
Saeco USA Customer Service Department
7905 Cochran Rd. - Suite 100
Glenwillow, OH 44139
Call:1.800.933.7876
Fax: 1.440.542.9173
To the attention of Technical Assistance Service.
www.saeco-usa.com

Posted on May 22, 2011

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