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I have a Intermatic T40404R and need a replacement timer. I have examined the timers in my unit and find no part numbers. Other sites offer a T101M as well as a T104M. Which is the correct timer for my Intermatic T40404R? Thanks...

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Thank you for including model number.
Intermatic catelog shows that T40404R is shipped with two T104M timer mechanisms.
However the mechanisms can be changed out for either T101M or T104M, and these timers can be wired many different ways so there is not 100% certainty unless you know or test voltages.

Here's the general difference
T101M is 120 Volt with 120Volt clock motor
T104M is 240 Volt with 240Volt clock motor

You can buy $20 clock motor and $3 trippers and fix the timer mechanism instead of replacing it.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#T100
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html

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Other useful links:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#pool
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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I would like to know how to wire my timer to my breaker box and pool pump? it a t101m 120v.. my pump has a white and black wire and some to my timer to my box


Wiring diagrams for T-101 appear on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T101

Hot wire goes to terminal 1
Neutral to terminal A

Black wire to pump goes to terminal 2
White wire to pump goes to terminal A along with Neutral wire.

Electricians don't guess, they test.
So lets test wires for sure:

Separate wires.
Use ordinary 2-wire tester from hardware store.
Tape tester leads to wood sticks so hands are away from power.
Do not touch anything metal, stand on dry boards.
Turn power ON.
Test each wire to bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on Hot wire. Hot wire connects to terminal 1.
Hot wire is identified.
Test Hot wire to all other wires in box, except bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on Neutral wire. Neutral wire connects to terminal A.
Your other two wires go to Load.
Connect Load black to terminal 2
Connect Load white to terminal A

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1 year old t101m timer stopped working. The manual on/off works but mechanical clock doesn't. Is there an easy fix or should I just repalce?


T101 dial is not working so the 125V clock motor needs to be replaced:
Grainger sells 125V T100 series clock motor:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search

Timer mechanism releases from box with metal spring located inside top of box.
Clock motor is attached with 2 star screws.
Notice clock motor has plastic gears, but timer has metal gears.
Metal gears on timer mechanism last for many years.

Notice also that clock motor wires connect to terminals A and 1.
After installing new motor, tighten screws very tight against copper wire.

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Yes, the T101M 120Volt pool timer requires both ON and OFF trippers:

Grainger sells T100 series on-off trippers:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search
Amazon sells T100 trippers
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YO2C5U/?tag=picc-20

Grainger sells the T100 125V clock motor
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi

How to wire T-101 120Volt timer
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T101

How Intermatic dial timer clock works.
Clock motor rotates dial.
Intermatic clock motor, located on back of mechanism, are replaceable
Trippers located on outer edge of dial push on-off lever
ON tripper pushes lever one direction
OFF tripper pushes lever opposite direction.
Lever pushes electrical contacts together and pulls contacts apart.
When lever moves, manual override also clicks back and forth with audible click.
To replace timer, replacement snaps into box without needing to changing box.
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You can replace clock motor on many Intermatic timers:
Snap mechanism loose using metal spring top inside box.
Tip mechanism out and get clock motor number off motor.
Google search specific clock motor number.

Aplus sells many clock motor:
http://www.aplussupply.com/intermatic/timermotors.htm
Electric supply online sells clock motors
http://www.electricsupplyonline.com/prod/intermatic-motors.php

Grainger carries inexpensive clock motors for T101, T103, T104 timers.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi
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http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search
T104 uses 240v motor
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK2?Pid=search

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I get lights when I turn the switch to on but as the timer advances, it doesn't trip and turn the timer on


You posted under Intermatic T101 timer.
Add a comment if timer is different.

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T101
1) If this is new timer installation, it sounds like black wires on terminals 1 and 2 are reversed.
Other cause could be the ON-OFF trippers not positioned on timer dial

2) If this is old timer that worked before, then tripper pins could be worn down.
Buy new trippers for T101 at Grainger
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search
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How to position time pointer
Rotate disk counterclockwise until current time lines up with silver pointer
Place trippers on outer edge of dial > trippers are reversible so one side of tripper in ON > flip tripper over and it is OFF.
Disk rotates with passing time, trippers click lever ON and OFF at set times

How to repair W100:
If dial is not rotating, then clock motor is bad >> W100 uses 120V clock > check markings on clock. Internet shows Tork T101M and T201M clock motors, but unclear if either clock matches W100 timer.
If dial rotates but trippers do not turn Load on-off then buy P-69 trippers
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If manual override does not operate Load, then check electric circuit or Load (light bulbs burned out)
If manual override is sluggish or stuck, and doesn't click crisp and clean, then timer is worn out or needs to be cleaned.

Product Manual:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html#W-series
Link above shows manuals
Manual for W100 does not show specific clock-motor model

To buy parts or another timer
P-69 trippers available on web
Tork T101M and T201M clock motors available on web but unclear if they match W100

http://www.weisd.com/store2/tork/torktimer1.php
Page above sell W-series time dial part #70159 for 72$.
Page does not include photo, so unclear if dial includes clock-motor, or if voltage is 120V
Tork accessories pdf shows part #70159 as dial for W, with no other information

Same seller shows new W100 sells for $148.

Replace Tork with Intermatic, buy T7401B
Website sells T7401B for $114
T7401B is 120V timer and has 120V clock motor
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/3377/ELEC-T7401B.html
Manual for T7401B
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/t7401b%20-%20english.ashx

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