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Hi and welcome to FixYa, I am Kelly.

Your drum belt has broken or the ldler pully has failed. Reach inside the drum... grab a baffle and rotate the drum by hand. If it moves easily.. i.e your not also turning the motor; then the drum belt or idler pulley had failed. Since you did not include a model number I am not able to point you to any repair parts or DIY repair information. I will do that for you if you respond with a MAKE & model number.

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Posted on May 21, 2011

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