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Open flame remain out of the outlet manifold in the air shutter vent when i turn off the cabin switch of my suburban 6gl water heater

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If flame remains after power shut off to gas valve, then the gas valve is obviously leaking by and can cause a very dangerous situation. PLEASE !! Shut propane off until that can be addressed.

Posted on May 21, 2011

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I have an Atwood G6A-7 water heater on my trailer. When it lights only a yellow flame burns. I can not get a good blue flame. Adjusting the air shutter has no effect...


Use a air compressor to blow the lines clean. Open the line at the heater and blow air from the line at the pro-pain tank ( don't blow through the regulator undo the line coming out of the regulator.) and see if that works.

Jun 02, 2016 | Water Water Heaters

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I bought a brand new house and the gas water heater seems to be stuck in vacation mode.


Copy following link to troubleshoot by type of gas control valve, instructions how-to-light-water-heater, including error codes etc:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-gas-water-heater.html#intellivent
To reset the intellivent gas control, press and hold both arrow buttons for about 5 seconds
This water heater requires pilot flame. Look through site glass and upward (or use mirror) to see if pilot is ON and burning clear blue flame and not lazy yellow flame.
Check that gas shut-off is parallel to gas line:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Gas-water-heater-89-valve-2.jpg
Check if outlet has 120Volt, and that polarity of outlet is correct. Power vent water heaters require correct polarity: use circuit analyzer. Check if there is ground continuity between ground and manifold tube (center tube that connects between burner and gas control valve).
Scroll to top of same link to read about FV system and air intake cleaning. Must have good supply of incoming air.
Same page half way down has troubleshoot section for pressure switch testing, blower troubleshoot etc. The pressure switch and blower communicate electrically with gas control thermostat to determine when to release gas to burner where pilot ignites gas, causing poisonous combustion by-product to vent outdoors and help nature.
This model has thermopile instead of thermocouple. Basically thermopile is several thermocouples. When heated, thermopile generates enough current to run small electronic circuit inside gas control valve. This circuitry is very common in hvac units but fairly recent to water heaters. Advantage is error code troubleshoot and more optional controls, for example future response to in-home zwave remote controls and home automation
Get model number and brand from label on side of tank and post question on pro water heater forum with list of what you have tried so far.
http://www.thetankatwaterheaterrescue.com/forums/forum3/
Call plumber to bleed air out of gas line and check gas pressure.

May 28, 2013 | Water Heaters

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Water heater stopped working flame kicks on but dont stay on


1) Copy following link for American/AO Smith intellivent gas control valve troubleshoot:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-gas-water-heater.html#intellivent

Sorry earlier answer mistaken model number for Rheem tankless instead of American power vent with intellivent gas control valve.

2) Reset gas control valve, using troubleshoot manuals on link above.
Check that outlet has 120 volts and 80% rated voltage.
Check that outlet has correct polarity, and is grounded.
Check that ground is connected to manifold tube under the gas control valve.
Install whole house surge protector to protect appliances with electronic controls. Simple power outage can knock out gas control valves.

Jan 29, 2013 | American Water Heater PVG62-40T42-NV 40...

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Gas thermostat fails


1) If your water heater plugs into outlet, then electronic gas controls are susceptible to power surge. and reversed outlet polarity, and undervoltage at outlet, lack of ground wire continuity between ground plug and manifold tube connected to bottom of gas control valve.

2) If sediment builds up inside tank, it will cover thermostat probe and cause probe to malfunction.
Tank can have sediment flakes build-up and still drain perfectly clean water.

3) There are 2 general types of Honeywell electronic gas controls valves installed on Whirlpool heaters.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-gas-water-heater.html#intellivent
The gas control for atmospheric water heater (passive vent at top of heater) is modular, and is not always removed from tank when replaced.
The other gas control for power vent models is removed completely.

4) Remove thermostat from tank to reveal 3/4" opening.
Look inside tank.
To remove sediment flakes: Tape assorted plastic pipes and tubes to shop vac hose and see if flakes can be removed. And remove drain valve.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Clean-sediment-out-of-water-heater.html

5) Check that air intake is clean using feather duster or compressed air, clean combustion parts as shown in product manual. If air intake is clogged with dust, then draft vent is slowed. This causes slowed venting of hot combustion by-product that will overheat combustion chamber.
Typically this condition will trip the FV system. BUT it might also trip the gas control thermostat.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Flame-trap-inspection-325.jpg
Stand 3-legged water heaters on bricks so inspection and cleaning flame arrestor screen is ez.

Oct 30, 2012 | Water Heaters

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Reliant 501 Natural Gas won't stay lit


Reliance water heater?
Thermocouple is good if the pilot stays lit continuously.

501 is older model. Unknown if this unit has FVIR protection and sealed combustion chamber or open air intake on front of unit.
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Reliance-2006-Service-Handbook.pdf

With FVIR protection:
Get more fresh air to the unit.
Clean the flame arrestor screen.
Test and replace the thermocouple:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-thermocouple.html
Inspect and clean burner and combustion parts
Test gas pressure, bleed air out of gas line.
Replace gas control valve.
Test draft air by lighting match and see if smoke is pulled into the vent pipe at draft hood on top of tank.

Aug 20, 2012 | Water Heaters

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The pilot won't stay lit on gas hot water tank.


Make sure thermocouple tip is seated inside the burner flame.
Make sure thermocouple is not overtightened. Finger-tight + 1/4 turn.
If the pilot lights, then ECO energy cut off is not tripped, but gas control valve might be bad.
Check color of pilot flame: it should be strong and clear blue.
If pilot flame is weak, or color of flame is yellow-orange: Clean pilot orifice and burner and combustion parts on yearly basis.
Clean air intake screen if applicable.
Increase air supply to water heater. Open a window and see what happens.
Check for adequate draft going up chimney using match under vent hood to see if smoke drafts immediately upwards.
Bleed air out of gas line.
Check gas pressure.

Open following links for troubleshoot resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Pilot-light-will-not-stay-lit.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Pilot-outage-troubleshooting.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Vent-spillage-test-atmospheric-gas-water-heater.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html#troubleshoot

Sep 21, 2011 | Water Heaters

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Kenmore Water heater, Model # 153.339462, Pilot lights, burner burns for approx. 10 - 15 minutes then both go out. after which it is more difficult to light the pilot. I need ideas please


Clean combustion parts, clean air intake, get more air to water heater and see if problem continues.
Look at color of burner flame and pilot flame: if flame has yellow-and-orange instead of clear blue flame, then combustion parts need cleaning.

Pilot and burner problems can be caused by bad thermocouple, thermocouple not sitting in flame, weak pilot flame due to dirty tube or low gas pressure, air in gas line, no draft up vent, backdraft coming down vent, dirty combustion parts, clogged air intake, insufficient air, insufficient air quality, hot attic, bad gas control valve, etc.

Open following link for pdf resources, and illustrations for cleaning combustion parts, and some service manuals:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html#troubleshoot

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Sep 03, 2011 | Water Heaters

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Rheem 22V50F1 pilot won't stay lit. Changed thermo couple & it lit, ran then went out. Let it sit overnight & it lit, ran then went out. What next? p.s. The unit is 5 years old. Thanks


If pilot lights and flame is robust and clear blue, and pilot goes out later, then some suspects can be excluded: air in gas line, low gas pressure, thermocouple is overtightened (finger-tight + 1/4 turn), thermocouple not positioned correctly in the flame, dirty pilot tube.
If flame is yellowish and small: then clean pilot tube and combustion parts.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html#clean
Remaining suspects can include: air in gas line, low gas pressure, bad gas control valve, tight house so household vent fans pull air down water heater vent that blows out pilot, hot attic with inadequate ventilation, water dripping down vent.

Open following links to read troubleshoot resources.
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Pilot-light-will-not-stay-lit.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html#troubleshoot

Aug 16, 2011 | Rheem 50 Gallon FVR NATGAS Water Heater...

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I have a model 6G40PVW-40F water heater and we have no hot water... the thermostat light on warm/vacation is on and so are 2 other lights...If I diconnect it and re-connect it then it will start..the gas...


Most gas water heater problems today can be solved with yearly maintenance that includes cleaning burner parts, clean air intake, check venting, check electrical connections, bleed gas line, and check gas pressure.
Gas water heater manuals recommend yearly maintenance by service technician.

In past years, gas water heaters required less maintenance, but they were less energy efficient and more dangerous to operate.

Sounds like you have Intellivent gas control valve thermostat.
Open following link to identify gas valve and see error codes:
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Intelli-vent-gas-valve2.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-adjust-temperature-on-water-heater.html#intelli

Error light on vacation + 2 other lights = 3 possible conditions:
1) Wiring error: check outlet with circuit analyzer:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Typical-circuit-analyzer-15.jpg
2) Pressure switch tubing not connected, air intake obstructed (clean intake), or vent exhaust obstructed (check for proper venting).
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Test-water-heater-vent-400.jpg
3) System in lockout: Low gas pressure, hot surface igniter not positioned correctly.

You can do some of this yourself.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html#clean

Jun 30, 2011 | Rheem 40 GAL ELEC TALL Water Heater 6YR SC...

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Bradford White LP water Heater Power vent ,flame keeps going out


flue is overheating make sure outlet is not obstructed outside and if not that you feel a good air flow coming from it

Oct 02, 2009 | Water Heaters

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