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Pilot light won't stay lit when I let go of the igniter knob. Flame is yellow and long.

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Sounds like the Thermocouple has failed and needs to be replaced. It's not difficult to do. But, finding the part may be. Blue Rhino, is the manufacturer for Endless Summer Patio Heaters, so start there.

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