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Secondary hard drive

I attempted to install a secondary hard drive (IDE) which had data already on it (jumper on Cable Select). My current hard drive is a SATA and my mother board is a GA-P31-53G Gigabyte with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram.
Once I installed it my computer would turn on but would recognize my monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I took out the IDE and I still get the same result. Could it be my motherboard? Please help

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  • samrath Aug 08, 2008

    Thank you, I'll give it a try

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I had this trouble had to reset BIOS to default then it worked but would either recognize IDE drive and not SATA remove IDE SATA was recognized
Its something in the BIOS setup As I do not know your BIOS you will have to check it out with *********** board manual how to do it to setup both drives

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