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Fwt449gfs2 washes, empties some water, does not spin, knob does not advance

I have the Figidaire FWT449GFS2 front loading washing machine. Recently it stopped doing the high speed spin cycle. The washer fills, agitates as normal, pump engages and empties some of the water - but leaves some in, adds more water for the rinse, agitates, pump engages and empties some water - but not all, rinse repeats a few times and then it just sits - the high speed spin never occurs, and the cycle does not advance any further, i.e. the machine just sits there indefinitely and never runs to completion. The door is locked and the lock light is on. Based on other posts I replaced the door lock, but it has not made any difference. Do you have any recommendation(s)? Thanks

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  • dpmiller Aug 06, 2008

    I've tried advancing the knob, but it has no effect - other than that if I advance it far enough it moves to the next wash or rinse cycle, and then it hangs up all over again. If I advance it to the very end of the wash cycle, the end buzzer sounds indefinitely and does not turn off. I've stepped it incrementally through the entire range and at no time does the high speed spin engage, nor does it ever finish pumping out the remaining water.

  • dpmiller Aug 07, 2008

    I removed the bellows and recovered $5.24 in change and a couple of random pieces of junk from the bellows coin sump, but nothing that seemed to be clogging the system. With the system completely drained, it still does not spin. I have since re-run the full cycle (up until where it does not drain all of the water and does not go into high speed spin and then just sits without advancing the knob any further) with the same behavior as before. I need to know if spending $170 on a new timer is really gonna fix the problem, because if it doesn't, then I'm over $200 into repairing this thing, and nothing to show for it.

  • dpmiller Aug 07, 2008

    Doesn't seem to be the problem. The machine drains long and clean after the initial wash cycle (though it still doesn't empty completely, leaves about 2-3 inches standing in the drum). My machine drains into a large wash tub, there is no backup pressure. I can repeat the wash cycle over and over and each time it will drain the same amount of water, so I don't think there is any blockage.

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Your machine will not finish its cycle if it has water left in it and the usual problem is a plugged or twisted drain line. There may be some object down in the drain pipe itself..or you may have general househould drainage problems. Do you have slow drains elsewhere in the house. Are you on City sewer or septic?

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I would check the timmer. run it through a cycle and when it stops slightly move the timmer ahead. if that works than you need to replace the timmer... i had a washer that did that and it turned out to be the timmer on mine.

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There are two possible causes of the machine not going into the spin.

The first is an obstruction in the drain pump. This can be a partial block caused by a loose coin or bobby pin. The only way to clear the obstruction is to remove the lower panel at the front by removing the 2 screws at the lower edge. This will allow the front panel to drop down. You will need to unplug the machine for the naex part.

Now this will get a little messy... Be sure to have a lot of towels nearby to sop up the water. On the lower right hand side there is a pump with a black bellows attached which is also attached to the bottom of the tub. This black hose is clamped to the front of the pump if you unclamp the hose the remaining water in the system will spill out and you will have to reach inside the bellows and remove whatever obstruction is inside. some models will have a trap inside which may have to be removed from the top of the hose assembly by unscrewing the clamp on the bottom of the tub.

The hose will have to be reattached in teh reverse manner. It can be quite tricky to do so... Once the machine is back together you can test it by running a straight spin cycle, it should go into the full spin with no water in the system.

The other cause could be a faulty timer which may need to be replaced.

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  • Gavin Wolchina Aug 07, 2008

    Could you please clarify a little more for me.

    Can you hear the drain pump spinning freely and does the system drain fully?

    The pump needs to spin freely then the timer to advance into the spin cycle.

    If not fully drained then there still may be something in the pump or the pump may be damaged.

    You can remove the drain hose from the standpipe and hold it in a large bucket or sunk to see if there is an obstruction causing the water not to drain.


  • Gavin Wolchina Aug 07, 2008

    Sorry I meant sink not sunk.

  • Gavin Wolchina Aug 07, 2008

    To clarify your question...

    You need to make sure that the drain part of the cycle is working 100% before investigating if the timer is faulty. Most of the time the fault is with the drain and not the timer.


  • Gavin Wolchina Aug 07, 2008

    The drain cycle should be long enough to drain the tub completely, It is a time cycle. If it does not then there is either an issue with the drain pump or the machine is over-filling.

    After the last drain try pulling the knob to stop the cycle and advancing the timer all the way around to the drain cycle again and do a double drain to see of it removes all of the water. You should hear a chugging sound near the end of the drain cycle if the drain has completed fully. The drain pump should not make any chattering or clunking sounds.

    If the impeller inside of the drain pump is not damaged from a foreign object and the pump is working properly then it is possible that the machine is filling with too much water which would account for the incomplete drain. How high does that water level show in the tub when it is full?




  • Gavin Wolchina Aug 07, 2008

    It may be possible that there is a blockage in the water level sense tube. This is the long thin tubing that attaches from the fat white tube on the drain sump bellows to the fill level switch near the top of the machine under the top panel.

    This would cause the following to happen: The machine will overfill (the water level should be just below the glass in the door) and it will sense that there is still water in the tub when there is not.


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